From: "Adam Flinton" 


"Rich"  wrote in message news:3e681879{at}w3.nls.net...
>   If you are just making assumptions you should state that you are giving
an opinion based on assumptions

What like stating "It's well known that Linux has less functionality."?

"   In regard to free support, do you mean posting to a newsgroup or some
infamous IRC channel?  Is this what you use to support your critical systems?"

I don't know any major comp (there may be some, I jus don't know them)
which relies directly upon MS for support. EDS yes...CapGemini yes, IBM GS
yes....direct MS support?

However I do know a couple which do have a direct channel into the distrib
comp whose distrib they're using (in Europe Suse are especailly good at
this).


Adam


Rich

  "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
news:3e681017$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  >  Can you be specific instead of hot air and hand waving?

  I just stated my opinion, that's all. I'm not here to list out everything
  possible.

  >   It's well known that Linux has less functionality.

  I'm not so sure that can be said any more, but no matter I wasn't just
  talking overall OS functionality, but what you can do with that specific
  version of Windows Server -- with no Cal's, that means no NT
authentication,
  files serving, or print serving, and I assume no domain capabilities --
  that's 4 areas that Windows is strong on and Linux needs to catch up, yet
I
  can put together a Linux box that does all 5 of these things for a LOT
less
  money.

  >If you want to roll your own it can cost less for Linux, assuming your
time
  is worth >nothing.

  There's actually a decent amount of free support out there, and you don't
  have to roll your own version, you can use someone's distribution.

  >If you want to use a supported version, like from RedHat, expect to spend
  much more for your annual subscription.  They will sell you a subscription
  to red hat linux advanced server for $1499 per year.<

  I would *never* pay Red Hat that much, they don't have enough to offer
  support wise.  I have spent that much on Microsoft products several times
  over up to now, but things are a changin.  I might add that Microsoft is
  quite costly for aftermarket support and I don't buy that either.

  >If you want their supported enterprise level web server you are going to
  pay another $395 to $895 annually.  That's more than four to six times
more
  expensive than the Windows Server 2003 solution.<

  I got it beat -- I have a server here at home (always learning) that cost
$0
  for the Linux and about $200 for the hardware.  (I also have a Linux
client
  PC here that I paid $99 for and I'm not going to do that again, at least
not
  this distribution.)

  - Bob Comer



  "Rich"  wrote in message news:3e67d5e4$1{at}w3.nls.net...
     Can you be specific instead of hot air and hand waving?

     It's well known that Linux has less functionality.  If you want to roll
  your own it can cost less for Linux, assuming your time is worth nothing.
  If you want to use a supported version, like from RedHat, expect to spend
  much more for your annual subscription.  They will sell you a subscription
  to red hat linux advanced server for $1499 per year.  If you want their
  supported enterprise level web server you are going to pay another $395 to
  $895 annually.  That's more than four to six times more expensive than the
  Windows Server 2003 solution.

  Rich

    "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
  news:3e67b7d1{at}w3.nls.net...
    Less functionality, higher cost. Ease of use is a draw, but it would
have
  to be even cheaper just for a web server.

    - Bob Comer


      "Rich"  wrote in message news:3e67b63f{at}w3.nls.net...
         By what criteria and how so?

      Rich

        "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
  news:3e67ae88$1{at}w3.nls.net...
        That's not good enough to compete with Linux.

        - Bob Comer


        "Geo."  wrote in message
  news:3e67a4e1$1{at}w3.nls.net...
        > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/61/29567.html
        >
        > There will be no price increases (as such) when Microsoft ships
its
  next
        > server OS, Windows Server 2003, on April 24th, but there will be a
  new
        > budget-priced version of the product aimed squarely at the web
  server
        > market. Server 2003 Web Edition comes without client access
  licences, with
        a
        > 2gig limit on memory, 2-way SMP, and is $399.
        >
        >

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