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to: JANE KELLEY
from: MARK PROBERT
date: 1997-06-03 07:00:00
subject: Punishment

JANE KELLEY was thinking about Punishment and keyed into cyberspace:
JK>BM> Institutionalized child abuse is what you are talking about.  I
JK>BM> grew up in that era Jane, as did you.  Physical punishment was
JK>BM> meted out at the drop of a hat for the most innocuous of things.
JK>Not where I went to school.  And by therapuetic spanking, I  mean by
JK>parents.  This notion of spoiling the child to the nearest juvenile
JK>corrections institution is something that came along long after my
JK>children were raised, thank heaven.
And you have said that your daughter disagrees with you, thank heaven.
Beating a child into submission does nothing except prove that the adult 
is weak.
JK>  Contrary to
JK>BM> what you and Andrew seem to believe that kind of adult behavior
JK>BM> did little, nothing IMO, to enhance the respect of students for
JK>BM> teachers. 
JK>I've talked to folks who went to Catholic schools were the nuns did
JK>not spare the rod at all.  They have respect for those women still.
No, they have a form of fear. Respect is earned.
JK>BM> More that 90% of the time the admins and teaching staff in any
JK>BM> given school aren't familiar enough with their own rules to
JK>BM> consistently enforce them...reintroducing corporal punishment
JK>BM> gives them carte blanche to whale away when ever the mood strikes
JK>BM> them.  Don't think for an instant that it wouldn't happen.
JK>Most of the time, 90% of the administration and teaching staff in any
JK>given school don't impress me as having the good sense to come in out
JK>of the rain.
Well, I have to agree with the conclusion, but form the opposite end of 
your reasoning.
JK> BM> JK> well as the early separation from the rest of the
JK>kids those who are BM> JK> found to be psychopathic.
                ===>The Voice of Reason<===
                     mark.probert@juno.com
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