From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.tos
From Address: dxmm{at}albury.nospam.net.au
Subject: Re: STAR TREK THE WRATH OF KHAN: was What Did You Watch?
2013-06-01(Saturday)

Lewis wrote:
> In message 
>    David Johnston  wrote:
>> On 6/8/2013 3:10 AM, Lewis wrote:
>>> In message 
>>>     anim8rFSK  wrote:
>>>> In article ,
>>>>    "Daniel47{at}teranews.com"
 wrote:
>>>
>>>>> anim8rFSK wrote:
>>>>>> In article ,
>>>>>>     "Daniel47{at}teranews.com"
 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lewis wrote:
>>>>>>>> In message 
>>>>>>>>       Arthur Lipscomb
 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 6/2/2013 10:03 PM, ToolPackinMama wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/2/2013 10:31 PM, Arthur Lipscomb wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Most of the other characters
were from TOS or just a random alien.
>>>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>>>> guy stands out because TOS had
no cyborgs like that on the Enterprise.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> TOS did have an android on the
Enterprise in one episode.  He wore a
>>>>>>>>>> Starfleet uniform and everything.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://allyourtrekarebelongto.us/imudd.htm
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not entirely the same thing.  Androids
were clearly established in TOS,
>>>>>>>>> which made Data's claims of uniqueness
a little odd.  The character in
>>>>>>>>> the movie is humanoid with cybernetic
implants which apparently
>>>>>>>>> (according to online sources) have a
direct neural interface with the
>>>>>>>>> Enterprise.  He's more Borg than
Starfleet and more advance than
>>>>>>>>> anything Starfleet should have had
during TOS (or even TNG).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Different History. Different developments.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lewis, I was going to give a similar response
to Arthur, up thread,
>>>>>>> along the lines of "Different Timeline,
so who knows what is
>>>>>>> possible!!", but as this is only a shout
time (months/years??) after the
>>>>>>> re-boot, is it really likely that there would
be a Borg in Starfleet??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The history of the universe and basic physics were
already completely
>>>>>> different in the first movie when Nero first appeared.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeap, the timeline is the same until Nero appears out
of nowhere and
>>>>> destroys Kirk's Dad's ship!
>>>
>>>> No it's not.  Look at Dad's ship.  It's *vastly* advanced
of ships of
>>>> the TOS era, which would be almost 40 years later.  And McCoy should
>>>> already be like 10 years old, but his birth got delayed
>>>
>>> What? Where'd you get that?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>> For the first he's pretending that that you can determine how
>> sophisticated the technology is from the sophistication of the props.
>> For the second, he apparently had decided that McCoy is the same age as
>> Kirk in NuTrek.  I have no idea why.
>
> I guess he didn't watch the movie?

Sorry, Lewis, I've lost track of the threading here! Are you saying that 
I didn't watch the movie, or that David didn't or that anim8rFSK didn't??

I don't know if I should be defending myself or if you and David are 
supporting me, or ......??

Daniel


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