PS>> and the part of P4 that says the ZCs' elect an IC from 
 PS>> among thier rank ?

 PS>> A person who is not a current ZC is not amongst thier rank.

ml>according to what i was told by more than one ZC and IC, they 
ml>actually are because they have the experiance of having been 
ml>a ZC... that experiance, in and of itself, it one of the major 
ml>keys...

 PS> What you were told could well be some one interpritation..... 

possibly... except that this person was one who was there during the
drafting of P4 and participated in the discussions ;)

 PS> A person who *was* a ZC is no longer the same rank as a 
 PS> person who *is* a ZC.

not according to the way i understand the explanation given at that time ;)

)\/(ark