From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.tos
From Address: David{at}block.net
Subject: Re: STAR TREK THE WRATH OF KHAN: was What Did You Watch?
2013-06-01(Saturday)

On 6/5/2013 9:46 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
> On 6/5/2013 6:01 AM, anim8rFSK wrote:
>> In article ,
>>   Dimensional Traveler  wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/3/2013 10:36 PM, JRStern wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 2 Jun 2013 14:23:10 -0400, "Obveeus"
 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> That reminds me of one of the other real
laughers of dialog in this
>>>>>>> film:
>>>>>>> The 'Phase 2' underground cave system they
made...where Federation
>>>>>>> miners
>>>>>>> took 6 months to carve out the tunnel system. 
Um...couldn't the
>>>>>>> transporters be configured to beam out an area
of rock and leave
>>>>>>> behind
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> cavern 'instantly'?  Yes, I know that they
wanted to juxtapose
>>>>>>> the hard
>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>> of the Federation team's carving devision with
the instant glory
>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>> Genesis device, but still...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, apparently the Star Fleet Corp of Engineers
are idiots, too.
>>>>>> But
>>>>>> mining techniques weren't much better in DEVIL IN THE DARK.
>>>>>
>>>>> I really liked the Horta episode.  I don't recall if they just
>>>>> explained
>>>>> the
>>>>> mining operation as being too poor for transporters (which would
>>>>> make no
>>>>> sense) or if it was some issue of stability/interference that
>>>>> prevented
>>>>> them
>>>> >from using a transporter as the mining device.  Maybe
they skipped
>>>> offering
>>>>> up any explanation at all.
>>>>
>>>> How about transporters are a very expensive way to move around a
>>>> couple of hundred pounds, a bunch of poor miners moving thousands of
>>>> tons couldn't begin to use them.
>>>>
>>> What expense is there in using a transporter?  It needs power but
>>> they've matter-antimatter power so that's not really an issue.
>>
>> Oh, it still could be very expensive.  Maybe the Illudium Q-36 Explosive
>> Space Modulator wears out every 78 transports and costs 300 quatloos to
>> replace.  That gives you a cost of almost 4 quatloos per transport,
>> before shipping and installation fees.
>>
> Of course you're right.  I must have been thinking of TNG transporters
> from that no money Federation.
>

That Federation pretends not to have money, but that doesn't mean 
everything is really free for the asking there.  Note that Vash was 
unable to get off world without scamming a Ferengi, Beverly asks that a 
purchase be put on her account, Wesley has a ration of transporter 
credits restricting how frequently he can travel and Bashir's loser 
parents have spent their lives vainly struggling to be able to do the 
things they would like to.
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