From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.tos
From Address: David{at}block.net
Subject: Re: STAR TREK THE WRATH OF KHAN: was What Did You Watch?
2013-06-01(Saturday)

On 6/8/2013 3:10 AM, Lewis wrote:
> In message 
>    anim8rFSK  wrote:
>> In article ,
>>   "Daniel47{at}teranews.com"  wrote:
>
>>> anim8rFSK wrote:
>>>> In article ,
>>>>    "Daniel47{at}teranews.com"
 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Lewis wrote:
>>>>>> In message 
>>>>>>      Arthur Lipscomb
 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 6/2/2013 10:03 PM, ToolPackinMama wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 6/2/2013 10:31 PM, Arthur Lipscomb wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Most of the other characters were from
TOS or just a random alien.
>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>> guy stands out because TOS had no
cyborgs like that on the Enterprise.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> TOS did have an android on the Enterprise
in one episode.  He wore a
>>>>>>>> Starfleet uniform and everything.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://allyourtrekarebelongto.us/imudd.htm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not entirely the same thing.  Androids were
clearly established in TOS,
>>>>>>> which made Data's claims of uniqueness a
little odd.  The character in
>>>>>>> the movie is humanoid with cybernetic implants
which apparently
>>>>>>> (according to online sources) have a direct
neural interface with the
>>>>>>> Enterprise.  He's more Borg than Starfleet and
more advance than
>>>>>>> anything Starfleet should have had during TOS
(or even TNG).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Different History. Different developments.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lewis, I was going to give a similar response to
Arthur, up thread,
>>>>> along the lines of "Different Timeline, so who
knows what is
>>>>> possible!!", but as this is only a shout time
(months/years??) after the
>>>>> re-boot, is it really likely that there would be a
Borg in Starfleet??
>>>>>
>>>>> Daniel
>>>>
>>>> The history of the universe and basic physics were already
completely
>>>> different in the first movie when Nero first appeared.
>>>
>>> Yeap, the timeline is the same until Nero appears out of nowhere and
>>> destroys Kirk's Dad's ship!
>
>> No it's not.  Look at Dad's ship.  It's *vastly* advanced of ships of
>> the TOS era, which would be almost 40 years later.  And McCoy should
>> already be like 10 years old, but his birth got delayed
>
> What? Where'd you get that?
>
>
>

For the first he's pretending that that you can determine how 
sophisticated the technology is from the sophistication of the props. 
For the second, he apparently had decided that McCoy is the same age as 
Kirk in NuTrek.  I have no idea why.
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