From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.tos
From Address: epwise{at}yahoo.com
Subject: Re: STAR TREK THE WRATH OF KHAN: was What Did You Watch?
2013-06-01 (Saturday)

David Johnston  wrote in news:koqn7g$9o0$1{at}dont-
email.me:

> On 6/6/2013 1:16 PM, Wiseguy wrote:
>> David Johnston  wrote in news:koqdop$hrh$2{at}dont-
>> email.me:
>>
>>> On 6/5/2013 11:35 PM, Wiseguy wrote:
>>>> David Johnston  wrote in
>>>> news:konjlt$u78$1{at}dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>> On 6/5/2013 12:41 AM, Halmyre wrote:
>>>>>> On Jun 4, 5:06 pm, anim8rFSK
 wrote:
>>>>>>> In article ,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     "Danie...{at}teranews.com"
 wrote:
>>>>>>>> Lewis wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In message 
>>>>>>>>>       Arthur Lipscomb
 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/2/2013 10:03 PM, ToolPackinMama wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/2/2013 10:31 PM, Arthur
Lipscomb wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Most of the other
characters were from TOS or just a random
>>>>>>>>>>>> alien.  This guy stands
out because TOS had no cyborgs like
>>>>>>>>>>>> that on the Enterprise.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> TOS did have an android on the
Enterprise in one episode.  
He
>>>>>>>>>>> wore a Starfleet uniform and everything.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
http://allyourtrekarebelongto.us/imudd.htm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not entirely the same thing. 
Androids were clearly 
established
>>>>>>>>>> in TOS, which made Data's claims
of uniqueness a little odd.
>> The
>>>>>>>>>> character in the movie is humanoid
with cybernetic implants
>> which
>>>>>>>>>> apparently (according to online
sources) have a direct neural
>>>>>>>>>> interface with the Enterprise. 
He's more Borg than Starfleet
>> and
>>>>>>>>>> more advance than anything
Starfleet should have had during 
TOS
>>>>>>>>>> (or even TNG).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Different History. Different developments.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lewis, I was going to give a similar
response to Arthur, up
>> thread,
>>>>>>>> along the lines of "Different
Timeline, so who knows what is
>>>>>>>> possible!!", but as this is only a
shout time (months/years??)
>>>>>>>> after the re-boot, is it really likely
that there would be a 
Borg
>>>>>>>> in Starfleet??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The history of the universe and basic physics
were already
>>>>>>> completely different in the first movie when Nero first 
appeared.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But the laws of physics are...erm, unchangeable...
>>>>>
>>>>> I dunno about that.  The way warp drive works changed
between TOS
>> and
>>>>> TNG.  And that wasn't even supposed to be a parallel universe.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> They took place several decades apart.  Can't there be any
>> advancements
>>>> in what is a FICTIONAL universe?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't consider changing how speed is measured to a asymptotic 
scale
>> to
>>> be an advancement.
>>>
>>
>> You wrote: "The way warp drive works" not "changing
how speed is
>> measured to a asymptotic scale."
>>
> 
> Yes, the speed of warp drive.
> 

Changing the way warp drive works is not just changing speed.
If all you meant was speed you should have said so in the first place.

At any rate, an increase is speed can still be considered an 
advancement.
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