-=> Quoting Jerry Schwartz to Walter Five <=-
 JS> [May 26, 97 - 10:12] Walter Five of 1:106/7315 wrote to Bob Moylan:
 
 >>  Welll.... the so called "normal" child might make this abstract
 >>  association depending on his/her age.  However, the child with
 >>  ADD/ADHD will not simply because by the time any _punishment_ is
 >>  meted out the transgression has been forgotten.
 
 WF> Oh, I heartily DISAGREE. I am an ADHD adult. I *was* an ADHD child.
 WF> I certainly KNEW what I was getting punished for, and *why*, most of the
 WF> time. Usually it felt like an injustice, but doesn't it feel that way 
for 
 JS> My son will, if questioned, give the right answers to those questions:
 JS> but he doesn't seem able to internalize this knowledge.  He knows it's
 JS> wrong, he knows he'll get punished, but he does it anyways and doesn't
 JS> seem to make the connection.  This is very troubling and frustrating
 JS> to me and my wife: the kid is 16, and does a variety of "wrong" things
 JS> ranging from the bizarre (not bathing or brushing his teeth) to
 JS> stealing from family members. 
 JS> Jerry Schwartz
 I can relate.  It is very frustrating.  My 12 year old is ADD with LD and
 I have a hard time getting him to understand in cleanliness.  He has come
 a long way though although we thought we had money stealing done with
 around here I should tell you a story about our last encounter.
 I was missing a 10 dollar bill.  I found this out in a Home Depot when I
 decided to buy the kids seeds and stuff for our science project on
 environment.  All three kids insisted nobody took it.  I grounded them
 all.  Knowing someone had, but not getting straight answers. My husband
 and I both couldn't believe it as they all sat there in the back seat
 accusing one another of taking it.  Finally Jeremy (ADHD and my holy
 terror child) told me he saw Angel (his cat) with the 10 dollars playing
 with it and hooked to her paw.  When we got home they finally found the
 money in a place I looked and did not find it and of course, no nail hole
 on the money from the cat.  Now what do you do.  You have no actual proof.
 Needless to say we decided to tease them a little over it and their story,
 and explain it all over again about taking something that wasn't theirs.
 Emphasizing God's knowledge of what they did or did not do and leave it at
 that.  So far so good, but I imagine it may still not quite be over.  Oh,
 I need to mention that Jeremy had a long talk to his cat about stealing the
 money .  No I dod not believe the cat did it, but it seems that
 the kids did understand that I knew.  They also knew they really did not
 get away with it.
 Its hard sometimes when they come up with such good stories not to almost
 laugh.  And this story was somewhat possible.  Although I think no hole
 in the money kinda puts a hole in their story. 
 Regina
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