Walter Five (On 26 May 97) was overheard expounding to Bob Moylan
 WF> Oh, I heartily DISAGREE. I am an ADHD adult. I *was* an ADHD child.
 That ^^ is part of why I'm in this echo...there is no substitute for
 real first hand experience.  I've seen you post here, if somewhat
 infrequently, in the past.  Don't be such a stranger... (-8
 WF> I certainly KNEW what I was getting punished for, and *why*, most of
 WF> the time.
 Okay...I probably didn't say what very well what I was thinking at
 the time...and "punishment" isn't exactly the word choice I'd have
 used if I'd given a little more thought to it.  Discipline more aptly
 describes what I was trying to say....there is a difference.
 
 WF> Usually it felt like an injustice,
 Yes...we hear that a LOT.  "It's not _fair_" or something along the
 lines that Johnny "made" me do it.
 WF> but doesn't it feel that way for most kids, no matter what their
 WF> problems (if any)?
 YEP...
 WF> Agressive behaviors expressed in unhealthy and anti-social ways
 WF> have GOT to be dealt with, for the sake of the child, and for the
 WF? sake of the children that the child associates with.
 Absolutely agree ... we are trying to extend this particular concept
 to verbal aggression as well.  Physical aggression toward another
 isn't tolerated at all.  It's extremely difficult to discipline our
 son +and+ make him understand why when he has retaliated against
 another kid who has goaded him into something or has struck the first
 blow.  We've live where we do now for all of his 10 years so most of
 the neighborhood kids know what he's like (sometimes that's good and
 sometimes they use it against him) and all the parents who get
 involved are very good at getting to the root of who did what to who.
 WF> "Trouble" caused by curiosity, OTOH, is a different matter, and
 WF> needs to handled with a different tack--
 Yeah...something different every time...
 WF> kids need to learn about "Cause and Effect", especially ADHD kids.
 Isn't not so much as not knowing as it is what the "effect" will be
 as just plain not being able to consider the "cause" before it is
 done?  IOW the thought = the action?
... Jurassic Park II:  Barney goes off his Medication
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