ml>> oh good grief... so malcolm, you and every single node in fidonet has to
 ml>> hold every sysop's hand and guide them in the proper setup of their
 ml>> systems and software??

 BF>    Rather patronizing, isn't it? It sounds like "Of course *I*
 BF> know how to properly configure *my* mailer, but we must
 BF> remember that everyone isn't as smart as I am!".

yep... it does sound/read that way on both parts...

 BF>    What's even more strange is, that if now Malcolm already
 BF> distributes censored nodelists/nodediffs, to protect all those
 BF> ignorant Aussie sysops from making a terrible mistake, why in
 BF> hell should the entire zone 2 segment have to be censored as
 BF> well?

thank you...

 BF> Are those Aussie sysops also suspected of grabbing
 BF> nodelists from other zones (sneaky bastards!)? In which case
 BF> they still get a bunch of 000-nodes from zone 1 -- Janis
 BF> obviously didn't fall for this hoax, but then again she *is*
 BF> renowned for her technical skills.

O:)

 BF>    To me, the zone 2 censorship is almost like using double
 BF> condoms -- isn't it better to rather change to a better
 BF> quality then? :)

seems to me that much of it is also akin to giving up individual freedoms
so as to let the gov't protect one's rights... also seems to me that this
is exactly why there have been numerous revolutions ;)

)\/(ark