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From: "Karl Uppiano" 
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Subject: Re: George Martin's influence on the Beatles' music.
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Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2005 21:34:44 +0000 (UTC)
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"Kevin Wayne"  wrote in message 
news:_5YHe.3315$Q75.664472{at}newshog.newsread.com...
> On 8/1/05 5:19 PM, blackburst{at}aol.com wrote:
>> Clifford Golson wrote:
>>
>>>[Relationship between Beatles' ideas and Martin's production]
>>
>> There was a curious synergy there. The Beatles were unusually talented
>> to begin with, but Martin intitally was the teacher who helped polish
>> the rawness of that talent. But in later years, the Beatles became the
>> "teachers", in a way, and prevailed upon Martin to push
the traditional
>> envelope in new ways. Martin thought the "cello groaning down to the
>> seventh" in the second bridge of "Yesterday" was
wrong, but he allowed
>> it, and he later came to see its genius and wished he had thought of it
>> himself.
>
> I think "curious synergy" is a good description. It would be
interesting 
> to know what other groups GM produced and what effect he had on their 
> sound. Certainly he gave some structure to the Beatles' more amorphous 
> ideas ("10,000 Tibetan monks"), and even if the result
wasn't what the 
> songwriter envisioned at first, at least something concrete got recorded 
> onto the tapes.

GM produced the soft rock trio "America" (Horse With No Name, Ventura 
Highway, etc.). They were tolerable, but certainly nowhere near as 
interesting as the Beatles. 

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