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Subject: Re: WinXP Pro x86 more Framework security updates getting halted by
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Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 07:53:09 -0500
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"Greegor"  wrote in message 
news:af9ba75b-2913-4806-a79b-a05362fd06f4{at}6g2000pbh.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 2, 8:19 am, "glee"  wrote:
>
>> >> > Glen wrote:
>> >> >> The errors you are seeing are due to some
registry information
>> >> >> being
>> >> >> missing, or some files that have been corrupted, from the 
>> >> >> original
>> >> >> installation of the .NET Framework.
>>
>> >> >It's doing it on 2 of my working systems which DO have
>> >> >clean installs and never once ran up regedit.
>>
>> >> Interesting.... nothing has been installed except an stock clean
>> >> install
>> >> of the OS? Is an anti-virus installed at the time of the .NET
>> >> installation, and is it active at the time?
>>
>> >MSE installed and running in the order it was offered up
>> >by the update site.
>>
>> I assume you mean the updates were offerred... Windows Update doesn't
>> automatically offer MSE itself.
>>
>> >Update site does not say to turn off virus scanner.
>>
>> No, but it I always do when installing updates to .NET or Internet
>> Explorer, at the least. AV's vary.... Norton has a history of
>> interfering, as well as some others (ESET did for a while)... other 
>> AVs
>> don't cause any trouble most of the time.
>>
>> >Are problem with installers looking for necessary files in
>> >crazy places with long random character names a
>> >common symptom caused by a virus scanner operating?
>>
>> That 'symptom' is usually the uninstaller looking for the original
>> temporary folder that was used (or recorded as used) during the 
>> original
>> installation. Often those folders are deleted by the installer at the
>> end of the installation, or by the user during maintenance.
>
>That seems to be exactly what is going wrong.
>How could a virus scanner like MSE possibly
>cause this sort of malfunction?
>
>How could it cause the record of where crucial
>code or overlays are, to refer to the WRONG
>directory?
>
>I will try to test for this effect, maybe next week.
>
>> >It just doesn't seem like the kind of error I would
>> >expect from collisions with an active virus scanner.
>>
>> No, probably not. It could be a defect in the installer, but if it 
>> was,
>> one would expect to see the issue everywhere, and it is actually not
>> that common.
>
> snip

I didn't state that an A-V, in your case MSE, would necessarily cause 
it.  As I stated in my reply, it could be a defect in the installer, 
though one would then expect to see the issue everywhere, and it isn't 
that common.  That said, if an A-V is interfering with an installation, 
corruption of the installation could occur in a number of places.... 
files not copied, or corrupted Registry entries, and so forth.
..NET updates have long been a problem, searching for the myriad causes 
of the problems isn't worth the time to me.... it just seems to fragile 
for prime time.  I look for alternate software that doesn't use .NET 
wherever possible.  Vista, Win7 and 8 all have some versions built in 
now.
-- 
Glen Ventura
MS MVP  Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
CompTIA A+

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