Karen Wattie said to Bob Gearhart at 05-06-04  18:54
 Subject: Re: Hello
 KW> On 4/30/2004 1:39 AM, BOB GEARHART wrote to BOB.DIAL{at}GTE.NET:

 KW> I believe the question was, where is a good place to put pictures.
 KW> I think the system at www.imagestation.com is about the best right
 KW> now.  You  can put picture into individual albums, look at them as a
 KW> thumbprint index, or  individually bigger, or even as a slide show. 
 KW> You can also leave comments on  any picture you care to.  You can leave
 KW> the album open for public view, or  password protect it so only invited
 KW> guest can see your work.  People can,  however, order copies from there
 KW> if they decided to.  But I think they could  have done that from our
 KW> old e-circle too. 

 I think the way Larry Bolch has the Photogallery set up is the ideal
 way to share pictures. True they are not restricted as to who can view
 them.  You must be one of the 190 members of the group.

 You can, if using your Outlook Express or other email program, just
 attach pictures to your message for a once viewed thing.  You can
 write a long treatise about that picture if you care to.  You can
 upload it to a Photo folder you create under your own name, or you
 can upload it to a files section.  Any member of the group can download
 it. The discussion is basically photography, but not restricted to pure
 photography. It is a good group to read now.  It is also the only one
 of the groups I belong to that allows attachments to messages.  It is
 more like the photo echo here on Fido, but with extras thrown in.

 There have been a few spams pop up directed at the entire group, but
 Larry removes and bars them from the group as soon as someone does
 that. Because in order to belong to a group, you have to provide Yahoo
 with a valid email address they can send your login to, when they get a
 spam report, you are then barred from participation in all the Yahoo
 groups. To send a bit of spam, you have to go through a pain in the
 rear process and your limited to just once, it's just not worth it for
 the spammers.
          
 KW> As for all that "ranting" down below.....Bob4.....YOU sent me to

 Ranting......  Try attempting to help make your life easier.  

 KW> Yahoo, told  me to get my PhotoGallery mail through them and NOW you
 KW> squawk about the  spam?  Are you trying to get me buried in spam when
 KW> you know how well  protected I am from it at my ISP address???  

 Nope, as usual Karen you are reading something I didn't say.  Old age
 and Granniehood does that to a person you know.   I'm just saying
 that I have started getting the email from the groups as emails sent to
 my ISP, where they are sorted by group, I belong to four, and each one
 is sent to it's individual group folder created by me in my Outlook
 Express program.  When I feel like it, I can read those without having
 them cluttering up my main email message inbox.  Thats all this says.

 KW> Well, I've been there at  least a month now and have received
 KW> absolutely NO spam at the Yahoo address  yet.  But then, that's not an
 KW> address I fill in for newsletters and contests,  so maybe nobody will

 Right and exactly the sort of activity I was referring to.  I get fifty
 spams a day at my Yahoo address.  You can send me a spam there if you
 want, but if you do, I will click the spam button when reading my inbox
 for your address and ever after your messages will be routed to a spam
 inbox, where they are not read, or even looked at by message title, are
 only placed in a Bulk mail folder, with an empty button next to it.  I
 click the empty button without looking to see what was in there, and
 everything is deleted.   I love my Yahoo address for that feature.  As
 I said, if I want to hear back from a company, say after registering a
 warrantee, maybe years in the future, I give them the Yahoo address as
 I will still have that years in the future.

 KW> find me there anyway.  If they do, I'll just delete it  and go back to
 KW> my Primary mail address where the Mail Washer takes care of  what few
 KW> spam messages wander in.  I'm happy with the Yahoo address you talked 
 KW> me into :) 
 KW> Karen

 Sure it is fine, and your lack of spam indicates there is no spam
 originating from a groups membership.  Which is what I say, and as
 there is none of the spam I feared, why not have it routed home, so as
 soon as a message appears it goes into your computer for later reading.
 Using the separate folders and filters to sort your email, as described
 below, you can make that happen.  Of course if you are happy reading
 online, thats OK too.  On a dial up connection, I didn't like to keep
 my phone tied up for long periods of time while I played on the web.
 That being the major reason I went broadband.  However if you don't
 want your phone tied up, but can't get a broadband connection as
 cheaply as a dial up ISP, you can still get all the messages on your
 computer,   Handle them off-line just like your other email and send
 them when you do go back online.

 
 ->  Bo> I suspect Bob Gearhart or Karen can supply you with the ones they
 ->  Bo> frequent. I get way too much junk mail from participation on Yahoo so
 ->  Bo> it's normally blocked in my mailer.  If the site moves to some other
 ->  Bo> venue I might be able to enjoy it more.
 -> 
 ->  Hi there guys.
 -> 
 ->  What I've found out about Yahoo and junk mail.
 -> 
 ->  I have a yahoo id, give it to everyone. qsabe{at}yahoo.com and
 ->  if it shows up in some spammers mailbox, I don't care.  Yahoo
 ->  does a good job of separating my real mail from the junk.
 ->  When I go to read my Yahoo mail on-line I have from fifty to
 ->  a couple hundred spam's, junks mails, all sorted out and in
 ->  the junk mail folder.  The few I get that aren't sorted out
 ->  as junk mail are usually just junk mail too, so I click the
 ->  spam button and Yahoo adds those names to it's junk mail filters.
 -> 
 ->  The thing is, that's mail that comes in to my Yahoo mailbox.
 ->  I don't use that mailbox for anything but those web sites
 ->  that demand you give them an e-mail address before you can
 ->  join the group.  Those sites that say, OK we will e-mail you
 ->  your password.  They go to Yahoo mail, I pick it up and carry
 ->  on.
 -> 
 ->  However Yahoo is so good at sorting the junk mail into their
 ->  their junk mail mailbox, that I also give that address to
 ->  companies who I might want to contact years from now.  The ISP
 ->  I'm using just might anger me, which makes them history and I
 ->  start with a new address from someone else.  I've had the Yahoo
 ->  address ever since getting on the web.  I've been through a
 ->  half dozen ISP's in that time, but Yahoo is always there.
 -> 
 ->  I sent my video camera off to have some work done on the Mack
 ->  extended warrantee, and Mack got the Yahoo address, I like it
 ->  that much.  By the way, I will say something about Mack, I
 ->  couldn't be happier with the service I received.  I'm glad
 ->  I bought the warrantee with the new camera.
 -> 
 ->  Back to Yahoo.  If you log in to Yahoo groups, you can read
 ->  messages online, where it is ugly, or have the messages sent
 ->  to another e-mail address.  If you use the Yahoo address,
 ->  they will be intermingled with the spam and your other mail.
 ->  Or you can have the messages sent as individual e-mails, one
 ->  for each message to your ISP mailbox.  I was leery at first
 ->  about getting spammed that way,  but so far, I've received
 ->  none.  As for getting a bunch of stuff mixed in with your
 ->  regular mail, the way to handle that is to create a separate
 ->  folder just for that mail. One of mine is called Photogallery.
 -> 
 ->  Then create a filter to filter all your incoming mail looking
 ->  for [Photogallery in the message subject line.  Set your
 ->  filter up to move all messages that trigger from the inbox
 ->  to the new folder, thus keeping everything separate.  You
 ->  don't have to build that filter on your home mailbox, you
 ->  could build it on the Yahoo or other online mailbox too, but
 ->  It's easier for me on my ISP.
 -> 
 ->  Just go to the Yahoo groups and join a group.  Then set
 ->  up your group mail options to send mail to your address.
 -> 
 ->  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PhotoGallery/ is where you
 ->  would join the group.   Knock on wood, I'm getting no spam
 ->  from the address given to Yahoo Groups.
 -> 
 ->  There are currently 190 folks in the PhotoGallery group
 ->  1505 in the coolpix group so there is a lot of activity
 ->  and most of the old gang is there.  Nothing can replace
 ->  the intimacy of a small group like on Fido, but if you
 ->  want to put a picture up and have a discussion about it,
 ->  that's a nice place.
 -> 
 ->  And Fonix sill has space available for folks from the
 ->  Photo Echo.   Good luck guys.
 -> 
 ->  Bob 4

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