From: "Robert Comer" 

>   There is something different about your system.

System(s).

>There has to be some reason why you claim you see this all the time and
everyone else does not.

No, I didn't say I see it all the time, just a LOT.  I don't know what causes it.

>I'd not be surprised if the snap or AS/400 have problems.  Windows 2000
sends notifications fine.

I don't have a problem on Win9x machines this way, it sends the
notifications just fine.

>   You have no CD-ROM software?

Some of the PC's yes, some no, and not the same version on any.

>These are CD-ROMs or CD-R/W?>

Both, but mostly CDRW. Even have a DVD and a DVDRW.

>If the latter, don't you have software to burn CDs?

On the ones with rw, yes, but none of them have that active crud (tray icon
that asks you what to do when you put in a blank CD) or the direct cd type
stuff.

>For that matter, are you using inbox or non-inbox drivers

In box on all but one PC. (newer video card than what's in the box on my
main PC at home.)  Supposedly certified though.

>Again, there must be some reason why you claim to never see title changes
while everyone else does not.

If I knew I'd tell you why. (and I doubt EVERYONE sees title changes, I
don't have that strange a config.)

- Bob Comer



"Rich"  wrote in message news:3eb5a26c{at}w3.nls.net...
   There is something different about your system.  There has to be some
reason why you claim you see this all the time and everyone else does not.
I'd not be surprised if the snap or AS/400 have problems.  Windows 2000
sends notifications fine.

   You have no CD-ROM software?  These are CD-ROMs or CD-R/W?>  If the
latter, don't you have software to burn CDs?  For that matter, are you
using inbox or non-inbox drivers?  If the latter, are they WHQL certified? 
Again, there must be some reason why you claim to never see title changes
while everyone else does not.

Rich

  "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
news:3eb58b92$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  >   Someone else was describing icons that couldn't be clicked on.  Yours
  does not sound like a video problem.<

  That's kind of part of the symptom I'm seeing, except you get an error if
  you double click on them. (file not found)

  >   Network drive issues could be a problem or limitation with the file
  server to which you are connecting.  The server needs to send change
  notifications requested by the client.  What kind of server is it to which
  you are connecting?<

  Windows 200 Server, Snap server, and our AS/400, they all do it.

  >   The CD-ROM title update also depends on change notifications.  I'm
  suspecious that you claim this happens 100% of the time on all of your
PCs.
  Do you have some CD-ROM related software which you have installed on all
of
  your PCs.<

  Nope, but like I said, I have autorun disabled.

  - Bob Comer



  "Rich"  wrote in message news:3eb5614a{at}w3.nls.net...
     Someone else was describing icons that couldn't be clicked on.  Yours
  does not sound like a video problem.


     The CD-ROM title update also depends on change notifications.  I'm
  suspecious that you claim this happens 100% of the time on all of your
PCs.
  Do you have some CD-ROM related software which you have installed on all
of
  your PCs.

  Rich

    "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
  news:3eb55783$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    If it were a video driver problem i would expect artifacts if it were
n't
    refreshing the screen properly.

    >The symptoms described were that the icon images were visible but
  clicking
    on them had no effect.

    That's not what i was describing -- you can move these icons that you
just
    deleted, you can try to delete them again 9and you get a file not found
    error)  and as for the network drives that exhibit the same behavior,
they
    just don't show up, and you know their connected because of a command
line
    net use shows them.  As for the cdrom's never changing the disk name
when
    you change the CD, you tell me. (probably something to do with autorun
not
    turned on, but it should update when accessing the CD.)

    And also, this beahovior is exactly the same on all my PC's regardless
of
    video.

    - Bob Comer



    "Rich"  wrote in message news:3eb543e6{at}w3.nls.net...
       Why should there be artifacts?  The symptoms described were that the
  icon
    images were visible but clicking on them had no effect.  That is an
    indication that there is no icon there.  There are ways to distinguish
by
    opening another window and dragging it across the front of the one with
    phantom icons or minimizing then maximizing.

    Rich

    "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
    news:3eb4b634$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    It's not a repaint problem as there are no artifacts, it's an update
  problem
    in explorer.

    - Bob Comer


    "Rich"  wrote in message news:3eb4b068$1{at}w3.nls.net...
       What people are describing doesn't sound like a caching issue.  It
  sounds
    like a display driver problem with blts that manifests as repaint
  problems.

    Rich

      "Geo."  wrote in message
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      "Frank Haber"  wrote in message
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      > or detail and back.  Clearing whatever TWEAKUI clears (is there a
      > SHELLICONCACHE in NT?)

      yes there is a shelliconcache in NT.

      Geo.

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