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echo: locsysop
to: Alexander Watson Law
from: Rod Speed
date: 1995-06-24 11:12:30
subject: locsysop 2/2

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AWL> (Especially under the QLD Anti-Discrimination Act.)

Still complete and utter tripe. Because you can clearly use Fido
to email, you arent being discriminated against. And they have the
wonderful bonus that you have been using it for quite a while, so you
cant fake away like mad and try to pretend you cant use it. You're fucked.

And you are perfectly free to have your own WankerNet with
you as a sysop, writing in ITS sysop echoes, with a PVT flag
for everyone, with some total wank whereby every node number
is the sysops birth date, or his star sign or the number of
freckles on his bum if thats what turns you on. You're fucked.

RS> which you clearly can use coz you do so.

AWL> But I am not a Member of FidoNet.

Fraid so. And you aint a member of parliament either, they have
these funky rules on how you qualify, you dont, so the HREOC will
tell you to go and fuck yourself if you demand that you must be one.

AWL> At best a Point could be considered a form of limited
AWL> or associate membership, because a Point is not Nodelisted,

Utterly irrelevant. Fido chooses to have only the full nodes on the
nodelist, and the point list is on the boss node. Thats entirely their
choice, and yours to do WankerNet any way you like, including have
points in the nodelist too, no nodelist, just *Cs in the nodelist.

AWL> is often refused freq access to systems
AWL> that allow Nodelisted systems to freq,

Thats just their choice, you cant demand they do it any particular
way, allow FREQs at all, allows only FREQs by *Cs or only passworded
sessions arranged in advance. The world is not at the whim of what
Alex Watson Law proclaims is the one true path to FREQing salvation.

AWL> and cannot obtain some Sysop Echos... Limiting
AWL> a person to a restricted class of membership on
AWL> the basis of a disablity is now unlawful Rod.

Pity they dont Alex. You are perfectly free to meet the requirements
which allow you to be a full node if you want to. Your 'disability'
does not prevent that, however much you try to claim it does. Bogus.

RS> Which has the tiny problem for you that you cant fake away like mad
RS> claiming a disability that cant use it, coz you clearly can use it.

AWL> Yes Rod, I can use a Point setup. Big deal. Unless I can access
AWL> FidoNet Sysop Echos and can be Nodelisted as a point, that does not
AWL> meet the requirements of various State and Commonwealth Legislation.

Fraid so Alex, whatever you claim. Chris showed that. You are fucked.

AWL> If I have the same access to FidoNet as a Point as does
AWL> a nodelisted system, then there is no problem. If there
AWL> are any restrictions on Point access, then Point access
AWL> does not meet the requirements for equal access...

BULLSHIT. If you aint a sysop, you dont NEED access to sysop echoes
you complete dork, they are for the administrative detail of the
nodes, which you aint one of. The FREQing by points is completely
and utterly irrelevant, because thats got nothing whatever to do
with Fido, its a choice made by a particular sysop, as is the choice
to require only passworded sessions or any FREQing at all.

AND you can have a full node if you want one, your alleged
disability does not prevent that anyway. Utterly bogus.

RS> And even if you say were both deaf and blind, so there was no
RS> real way to email using a point, that your problem, not Fidos.

AWL> Actually there are a number of Fido users I've come
AWL> across who have that problem. They use braile terminals.

Like I say, thats their problem, not Fidos. And if they dont
have any hands either, thats their problem, they have to work
out how to read the mail, Fido doesnt have to do that. If that
requires say a person who reads the mail and tickles their tummy
appropriately for each word, that their problem, not Fidos.

AWL> Under the various Acts, if they could not connect to Fido
AWL> with those terminals, then Fido would have to do something
AWL> about it, up to and including rewriting FTSC-001 if needed.

BULLSHIT, just like its not Fidos problem how they get the brailler
to work, thats THEIR problem, not Fidos. Similarly with say Windows,
there is no requirement on MS to make it disabled useable. And no
requirement on newspapers to produce braille editions.

AWL> (They would probably get a couple of years in which
AWL> to do so, the HREOC aren't complete bastards.) Anything
AWL> short of that and Fido would get very little leeway...

Nope, its complete and utter tripe Alex.

RS> Just like a newspaper isnt obliged to provide their
RS> paper on audio cassette for those who cant read a paper.

AWL> Actually Newspapers (and a variety of other publications)
AWL> must provide use of their material to the RPH (Radio Print
AWL> Handicapped) service free of charge.

Which aint anything remotely like your original claim Alex.
And if for example they had an antiquated old print system with
say just traditional old hot metal presses, thats the problem of
whoever is trying to produce the audio tapes, not the newspapers.

AWL> If that Government funded service did not already exist, then
AWL> they would probably find themselves having to create and fund one...

BULLSHIT. You obviously know sweet fuck all about THAT legal stuff too.

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