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to: JIM HOLSONBACK
from: Paul Williams
date: 2003-04-27 21:46:56
subject: Feeling ok? You`re green!

Hi JIM HOLSONBACK, hope you are having a nice day

PW>> So what I'd like to know is how/if the dell supply differs from the
PW>>normal atx supplies and if it would be possible to use it on an Asus
PW>>P2B PII mobo. It doesn't show a 3.3v output just an extra for the 5vfp,
PW>>max out is 224W.
JH>These old Dell "ATX" PS differ from ATX std, and won't work
on the Asus
JH>P2B, the latter two require 3.3v rail in the PS. We have at least a
JH>dozen Dell proprietary ATX PS where I volunteer.  AFAICT they work only
JH>when connected to Dell proprietary MB which they were intended for.

 Oh well it was worth a shot. I'll be taking a torch to the mb later
and stealing chips from it so might as well scrap the supply out for
parts too. (now to find a bad soundcard w/ a creative labs vibra16s
and see if i can fix it w/ a chipswap) ];>

PW>> Next up are a couple of pentium mobo's from other case, first is a
PW>>PT-2003 (fic?) w/ 430FX chipset. How does this board differ from the
PW>>PT-2006 I'm using right now aside from the chipset? (430vx)
JH>FX is older and supports slower cpu chips and memory than VX is
JH>capable of (G,D&R). But, I was a-thinkin' you are currently running a
JH>PT-2002, (which has a non-Intel chipset).

 Nope, 2006 w/ 430VX TritonII chipset. What I wish is that it was the
PT-2200 w/ the 430HX which was the server class board.

 The way I used to keep track was VX was like a volkswagon, ie. no
frills and cheap. FX was ferrari as it was speed optimized, and so
forth.

 Have to give that 2200 another try someday and see if it was just
bad pwr connections or something. I could use the ability to select
what ide device to boot from w/ all the hd's I need to check and having
a tray to put them in.

PW>> Then we have an unknown marked w/ AB-PX5 socket7 pentium w/ 430TX
PW>>chipset and *no* clk/mul jumpers, seems to be an autodetect setup. It
PW>>has 4pci/4isa slots (one shared), 2 simm and 2 dimm slots, usb and ir
PW>>conn's, and the board has the location for an atx pwr conn though it
PW>>uses the at type instead.
JH>TX limited to P233MMX or so, and 64MB cached memory.  I'll look when I
JH>can, but suggest you save this one for a 'rainy day project'.

 Considering how many tx boards I've got packed in one box right now
it'll have to be monsoon season. 

PW>> Inside is a couple of manuals for installing the SBC DSL modem for
PW>>'9x/nt/mac, an *UNOPENED* antistat bag w/ a SpeedStream 5360 Ethernet
PW>>ADSL modem, and a bag w/ a CAT-5 e-net patch cable. Unfortunately the
PW>>wallwart (18vac 0.8a) is missing as is the cd w/ the setup/installation
PW>>software. I did find another cd but it's marked as disk 2 and the
PW>>manuals indicate that drivers and such are on the first one. Anyone
PW>>happen to have SBC DSL service? ;>
JH>The yogi sighed, and said - -  "Alas, it is always thus with
curbware."
JH>I know I can come up with a suitable wallwart, but suggest you wait
JH>until relocated to Jawjuh, since they have BellSouth there, not SBC.

 I don't want the cd for the actual service, I need it 'cause that's
where the drivers and configuration program for the modem itself is
located. 'Sides if I were gonna get dsl while here I'd get it from the
isp I'd get dialup from. Ev1.net will give you the same kind of no
contract deal for dsl as dialup but it's $40/mo 'stead of $10 plus
they'll give you free install and free dsl modem too boot.

 You'd be hard pressed to find any other isp that'll beat the deal
they offer and they have access in quite a few states besides here.

PW>> While I did get all the software w3.1/'95/nt/mac the book and a
PW>>rj11-rj45 cable once again the wallwart is missing. This time it's
PW>>48vdc{at}250ma.
JH>I dunno if I can come up with a 48VDC wallwart.  But why would you be
JH>enthused about anything (even curbware) which works with ISDN?

 You never know what'll come in handy. I do have an idea why the isdn
modem wants 48v though. You can't hook a regular pots phone (or modem)
to an isdn line. You'll fry it in nothing flat. The idsn modem therefor
has to act also as a mini-pbx system which means it has to supply the
-48vdc for on-hook, 90vac for ring, and -6 for off-hook pots devices.
So w/ a bit of tinkering there I have a way to get the pcmcia modems to
work when I need to hook them up w/ the modem in this box.

 -=> Yours sincerely, Paul Williams <=-

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