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   There is something different about your system.  There has to be some =
reason why you claim you see this all the time and everyone else does =
not.  I'd not be surprised if the snap or AS/400 have problems.  Windows =
2000 sends notifications fine.

   You have no CD-ROM software?  These are CD-ROMs or CD-R/W?>  If the =
latter, don't you have software to burn CDs?  For that matter, are you =
using inbox or non-inbox drivers?  If the latter, are they WHQL =
certified?  Again, there must be some reason why you claim to never see =
title changes while everyone else does not.

Rich

  "Robert Comer"  wrote in message =
news:3eb58b92$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  >   Someone else was describing icons that couldn't be clicked on.  =
Yours
  does not sound like a video problem.<

  That's kind of part of the symptom I'm seeing, except you get an error =
if
  you double click on them. (file not found)

  >   Network drive issues could be a problem or limitation with the =
file
  server to which you are connecting.  The server needs to send change
  notifications requested by the client.  What kind of server is it to =
which
  you are connecting?<

  Windows 200 Server, Snap server, and our AS/400, they all do it.

  >   The CD-ROM title update also depends on change notifications.  I'm
  suspecious that you claim this happens 100% of the time on all of your =
PCs.
  Do you have some CD-ROM related software which you have installed on =
all of
  your PCs.<

  Nope, but like I said, I have autorun disabled.

  - Bob Comer



  "Rich"  wrote in message news:3eb5614a{at}w3.nls.net...
     Someone else was describing icons that couldn't be clicked on.  =
Yours
  does not sound like a video problem.


     The CD-ROM title update also depends on change notifications.  I'm
  suspecious that you claim this happens 100% of the time on all of your =
PCs.
  Do you have some CD-ROM related software which you have installed on =
all of
  your PCs.

  Rich

    "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
  news:3eb55783$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    If it were a video driver problem i would expect artifacts if it =
were n't
    refreshing the screen properly.

    >The symptoms described were that the icon images were visible but
  clicking
    on them had no effect.

    That's not what i was describing -- you can move these icons that =
you just
    deleted, you can try to delete them again 9and you get a file not =
found
    error)  and as for the network drives that exhibit the same =
behavior, they
    just don't show up, and you know their connected because of a =
command line
    net use shows them.  As for the cdrom's never changing the disk name =
when
    you change the CD, you tell me. (probably something to do with =
autorun not
    turned on, but it should update when accessing the CD.)

    And also, this beahovior is exactly the same on all my PC's =
regardless of
    video.

    - Bob Comer



    "Rich"  wrote in message news:3eb543e6{at}w3.nls.net...
       Why should there be artifacts?  The symptoms described were that =
the
  icon
    images were visible but clicking on them had no effect.  That is an
    indication that there is no icon there.  There are ways to =
distinguish by
    opening another window and dragging it across the front of the one =
with
    phantom icons or minimizing then maximizing.

    Rich

    "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
    news:3eb4b634$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    It's not a repaint problem as there are no artifacts, it's an update
  problem
    in explorer.

    - Bob Comer


    "Rich"  wrote in message news:3eb4b068$1{at}w3.nls.net...
       What people are describing doesn't sound like a caching issue.  =
It
  sounds
    like a display driver problem with blts that manifests as repaint
  problems.

    Rich

      "Geo."  wrote in message =
news:3eb48e3c{at}w3.nls.net...
      "Frank Haber"  wrote in message
      news:3eb44dd4$1{at}w3.nls.net...

      > or detail and back.  Clearing whatever TWEAKUI clears (is there =
a
      > SHELLICONCACHE in NT?)

      yes there is a shelliconcache in NT.

      Geo.



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   There is
something =
different about=20
your system.  There has to be some reason why you claim you see =
this all=20
the time and everyone else does not.  I'd not be surprised if the
= snap or=20
AS/400 have problems.  Windows 2000 sends notifications =
fine.
 
   You have
no CD-ROM =
software? =20
These are CD-ROMs or CD-R/W?>  If the latter, don't you
have = software to=20
burn CDs?  For that matter, are you using inbox or non-inbox =
drivers? =20
If the latter, are they WHQL certified?  Again, there must be some
= reason=20
why you claim to never see title changes while everyone else does=20
not.
 
Rich
 

  "Robert Comer" <bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>">mailto:bobcomer{at}mindspring.com">bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>
= wrote in=20
  message news:3eb58b92$1{at}w3.nls.net...>  =20
  Someone else was describing icons that couldn't be clicked on. =20
  Yoursdoes not sound like a video
problem.<That's kind =
of part=20
  of the symptom I'm seeing, except you get an error ifyou double =
click on=20
  them. (file not found)>  
Network drive issues =
could be a=20
  problem or limitation with the fileserver to which you are=20
  connecting.  The server needs to send changenotifications =
requested=20
  by the client.  What kind of server is it to whichyou are=20
  connecting?<Windows 200 Server, Snap server, and our =
AS/400, they=20
  all do it.>   The CD-ROM
title update also =
depends on=20
  change notifications.  I'msuspecious that you claim this =
happens 100%=20
  of the time on all of your PCs.Do you have some CD-ROM related =
software=20
  which you have installed on all ofyour
PCs.<Nope, but =
like I=20
  said, I have autorun disabled.- Bob =
Comer"Rich"=20
  <{at}> wrote in message news:3eb5614a{at}w3.nls.net...&nbs=
p; =20
  Someone else was describing icons that couldn't be clicked on. =20
  Yoursdoes not sound like a video
problem.   =
The=20
  CD-ROM title update also depends on change notifications. =20
  I'msuspecious that you claim this happens 100% of the time on all =
of your=20
  PCs.Do you have some CD-ROM related software which you have =
installed on=20
  all ofyour
PCs.Rich  "Robert
Comer" <bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>">mailto:bobcomer{at}mindspring.com">bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>
= wrote in=20
  messagenews:3eb55783$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
 =20
  If it were a video driver problem i would expect artifacts if it were=20
  n't  refreshing the screen
properly.  >The =
symptoms=20
  described were that the icon images were visible =
butclicking  on=20
  them had no effect.  That's not what i was
describing -- =
you can=20
  move these icons that you just  deleted, you can try to =
delete them=20
  again 9and you get a file not found  error) 
and as for =
the=20
  network drives that exhibit the same behavior, they  just =
don't show=20
  up, and you know their connected because of a command line  =
net use=20
  shows them.  As for the cdrom's never changing the disk name=20
  when  you change the CD, you tell me. (probably something to =
do with=20
  autorun not  turned on, but it should update when accessing =
the=20
  CD.)  And also, this beahovior is exactly
the same on all =
my PC's=20
  regardless of  video.  - Bob =
Comer =20
  "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:3eb543e6{at}w3.nls.net...&nbs=
p;   =20
  Why should there be artifacts?  The symptoms described were that=20
  theicon  images were visible but clicking on
them had no=20
  effect.  That is an  indication that there is
no icon=20
  there.  There are ways to distinguish by  opening =
another window=20
  and dragging it across the front of the one with  phantom =
icons or=20
  minimizing then maximizing. 
Rich  "Robert =
Comer"=20
  <bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>=20">mailto:bobcomer{at}mindspring.com">bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>=20
  wrote in message  news:3eb4b634$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
 =20
  It's not a repaint problem as there are no artifacts, it's an=20
  updateproblem  in
explorer.  - Bob=20
  Comer  "Rich"
<{at}> wrote in message news:3eb4b068$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
    =20
  What people are describing doesn't sound like a caching issue. =20
  Itsounds  like a display driver problem with
blts that =
manifests=20
  as repaintproblems. 
Rich    =
"Geo."=20
  <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
wrote =
in message=20
  news:3eb48e3c{at}w3.nls.net...&nbs=
p;  =20
  "Frank Haber" <frhaber{at}N0SPMrcn.com>">mailto:frhaber{at}N0SPMrcn.com">frhaber{at}N0SPMrcn.com>
=
wrote in=20
  message    news:3eb44dd4$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
   =20
  > or detail and back.  Clearing whatever TWEAKUI clears (is =
there=20
  a    > SHELLICONCACHE in =
NT?)   =20
  yes there is a shelliconcache in
NT.   =20
Geo.

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