*** Quoting Ward Dossche from a message to Carol Shenkenberger ***

WD> Carol,
WD>  
> So far, my information leads me to believe it is a schizm sect of 15% who
> would cause more damage than help.  My impression is they didnt have
> whole nets for example, so you'd have local dial sysops in different
> zones and all the problems that can cause.
WD>  
WD> The question to create a zone-7 was launched by "less than a
handful"
WD> who want a zone for their own reasons.
WD>  
WD> We will never be able to ascertain for ourselves what went on during t
WD> poll since it happened in a language you and I do not master.

True, and i don't have Anatoli to translate for me.  If I had the text
though, ¨I know some folks who could.

WD> However, let me tell you about some R50-sysops who came to me with a s
WD> "private ambitions of a few individuals" and one of the
main objective
WD> to fill the nodelist with a multitude of regions (every R50-net would
WD> a region) with several nets in each new region.

Yes, that was a query we had in Z6.  Li wanted to create 5-6 regions or at
the ¨minimum, 1 for Alex and Vladimir?  Anatoli refused to do it.  This was
back ¨before I came to take over.  I can look up the date but will be
around Xmas ¨time 2004 roughly, give or take a few months.

WD> formally possible. That means a formal *EC-structure with formal power
WD> next to the *C's. "Welcome to anarchy"!
WD>  
WD> So far I haven't seen one single technical argument, just political an
WD> "private ambition". We haven't heard of Igor for a while, BTW.

Same here.  One of those early talks in the Z6 sysop echo was me explaining
to ¨(I think it was Vladimir) that we couldnt make some 10 or 15 RC slots. 
The ¨number jumped around and was normally the upper end or even higher. 
He didnt ¨understand nodelist structure well enough with the numbering
system.

WD>  
WD> The issue was brought to the ZCC, it was debated, you can certify that
WD> not take part in the discussion until a decision was reached and only
WD> joined-in. The zone-creation was rejected. 
WD>  

Yup.  Without more information (which you do not have anymore than I do) it
was ¨a dead issue.

WD> Now changing the issue to a transfer to zone-6 is merely the political
WD> flogging of a dead horse. 561 people out of of several thousand respon
WD> a poll, of these 561 about 55% were in favour ... that is 6%? 7%? 8%?
WD> of the total region?
WD>  

Yup.  Roughly.

                                       xxcarol

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