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from: Daniel47{at}teranews.com
date: 2013-08-24 20:22:04
subject: Re: Star Trek Into Darkness

From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.tos
From Address: dxmm{at}albury.nospam.net.au
Subject: Re: Star Trek Into Darkness

Your Name wrote:
> In article , Lance Corporal Hammer
> Schultz  wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 10:31:10 +1200, Your Name wrote:
>>
>>> I've always said the fracnhise can be added to ... as long as it still
>>> fits with what's been already established.
>>
>> So what do you do with episodes that break previous canon?  Are they
>> not-Trek to you, too?  Or are you one of those crazy Trek fans who
>> thinks there is a plausible, coherent timeline with no contradictions?
>
> Minor contradictions are bound to happen ocassionally, especially when you
> have different people writing and making the shows over many years.
> They're annoyning at worst, but can be lived with.
>
> Wholesale changes as found in (and defined by) a "reboot"
means that you
> end up with a different product ... one that by all common sense reality
> is not actually part of the same fracnhise (again by definition - they've
> changed it!). When the people making a "reboot" are even
standing there
> telling you it's "different", then anyone who still blindly
claims it's
> part of the same franchise are quite obviously morons who do not under
> stand the term.

Your Name, I'll give you that Star Trek and Star Wars are not from the 
same universe (are they from the same Studios, I wonder??), and, 
although some might disagree, Galaxy Quest is from neither of the former 
universes, it doesn't mean they cannot co-exist in "our" universe as 
pieces of entertainment.

(And I'd tend to think the original Star Treks' and Star Wars' are 
better than their later incarnations!)

How is it, Your Name, that you can accept that ST:NG/ST:DS9/ST:VOY and 
the first six films are continuations of the ST:TOS universe, but cannot 
accept ST:2009 or ST:ID as continuations?? Same universe, just different 
interpretations.

Sure, these later incarnations have different production values compared 
to ST:TOS, but then ST:NG/ST:DS9/ST:VOY and the films also had different 
production values compared to ST:TOS.

Oh, hang on, of course, you haven't seen these latest incarnations, so 
don't know what your talking about!! (But we know where you're talking 
from!!) And yes, we all know that the shorts shown for films, etc., are 
an accurate representation of what they're promoting ..... NOT!!

Daniel

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