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to: PAUL WILLIAMS
from: JIM HOLSONBACK
date: 2003-04-25 22:10:00
subject: Feeling ok? You`re green!

Hello, Paul.

Hee.  Nope, green was back on St. Paddy's day - now its Eastertide, and
I'm multi-colored. ;-D.

 PW>  First item was what I'd left of a Dell pizzabox all-in-one system,
 PW> model MMM serial 5LHCL fccid E2KSTNGRMT. Has all the usual plus sb16
 PW> sound and ethernet, but it's a socket5 system and maxes out at 150mhz.
 PW> What got my attention though was the pwr supply uses an atx connector.
 PW> (model hp-224ss)

 PW>  So what I'd like to know is how/if the dell supply differs from the
 PW> normal atx supplies and if it would be possible to use it on an Asus
 PW> P2B PII mobo. It doesn't show a 3.3v output just an extra for the 5vfp,
 PW> max out is 224W.

These old Dell "ATX" PS differ from ATX std, and won't work on the Asus
P2B, the latter two require 3.3v rail in the PS. We have at least a
dozen Dell proprietary ATX PS where I volunteer.  AFAICT they work only
when connected to Dell proprietary MB which they were intended for.

Looking at the retainer clip side of standard ATX from the pwr supply,
with  the bottom of the plug-in connector at the bottom, so the wires
are coming in from the top, wires from left to right are as follows
(Intel ATX standard color code)

Orange        +3.3v
Blue        -12v
Black        GND
Green        PS_ON
Black        GND
Black        GND
Black        GND
White        -5V
Red        +5V
Red        +5V

Dang!  Scott Mueller's book (12th ED) has the pin number assignments
shown wrong, so I won't mention those.

Anyway, the proprietary DELL ATX pwr supplies I've seen have wires with
color codes which don't come near to those shown above.  These
proprietary PS were probably from older machines, (like the one
you're looking at?),  and DELL may have changed things in more recent
years. (I'd certainly hope so).

What I look for is that green PS_ON wire, nestled amongst the black
ground wires.  The proprietary DELL PS's I've seen don't have that at
all.

 PW>  Next up are a couple of pentium mobo's from other case, first is a
 PW> PT-2003 (fic?) w/ 430FX chipset. How does this board differ from the
 PW> PT-2006 I'm using right now aside from the chipset? (430vx)

FX is older and supports slower cpu chips and memory than VX is
capable of (G,D&R). But, I was a-thinkin' you are currently running a
PT-2002, (which has a non-Intel chipset).

 PW>  Then we have an unknown marked w/ AB-PX5 socket7 pentium w/ 430TX
 PW> chipset and *no* clk/mul jumpers, seems to be an autodetect setup. It
 PW> has 4pci/4isa slots (one shared), 2 simm and 2 dimm slots, usb and ir
 PW> conn's, and the board has the location for an atx pwr conn though it
 PW> uses the at type instead.

TX limited to P233MMX or so, and 64MB cached memory.  I'll look when I
can, but suggest you save this one for a 'rainy day project'.

I gotta scoot, so will blitz thru the rest - -

 PW>  Inside is a couple of manuals for installing the SBC DSL modem for
 PW> '9x/nt/mac, an *UNOPENED* antistat bag w/ a SpeedStream 5360 Ethernet
 PW> ADSL modem, and a bag w/ a CAT-5 e-net patch cable. Unfortunately the
 PW> wallwart (18vac 0.8a) is missing as is the cd w/ the setup/installation
 PW> software. I did find another cd but it's marked as disk 2 and the
 PW> manuals indicate that drivers and such are on the first one. Anyone
 PW> happen to have SBC DSL service? ;>

The yogi sighed, and said - -  "Alas, it is always thus with curbware."
I know I can come up with a suitable wallwart, but suggest you wait
until relocated to Jawjuh, since they have BellSouth there, not SBC.

 PW>  Then there's the second box. In this case I found an ADTRAN Express
 PW> XRT 128kbps ISDN modem (1200.153L2) which not only has a port for a
 PW> pots phone but will also let you connect an external modem (like a usr
 PW> v.90) to it in place of a second phone. Modem hooks up to the phone
 PW> jack and a db25 modem port, and then the isdn modem goes to a serial
 PW> port on your system. (hmm...dsl and isdn on the same feed...) =8>

 PW>  While I did get all the software w3.1/'95/nt/mac the book and a
 PW> rj11-rj45 cable once again the wallwart is missing. This time it's
 PW> 48vdc{at}250ma.

I dunno if I can come up with a 48VDC wallwart.  But why would you be
enthused about anything (even curbware) which works with ISDN?

 PW>  Any suggestions abt how I can get these two up and running enough to
 PW> check them out? (and do i need to pass around some alka-seltzer?)

Hee.  A-S not needed yet, but you might consider laying in a supply of
Prep-H for your own use, because of the PITA you may be about to get
yourself into. ;-D.

- - -  JimH.

... Roadkill?! Heck, Jim, lets go back- that critter is still _alive_ -Bubba
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