From: "Randy H" 

Sam's Club is selling those 160 GB drives for $150/ea. And I heard that
CompUSA is flogging the same drive after rebates for ~$100.

I'm living dangerously right now-I broke my IBM 60 GB mirror into a striped
120 GB set to house my media.

"Mike '/m'"  wrote in message
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>
> If you check www.dell.com.nytimesoffer once or twice a week, you'll often
> see a "free shipping" promotion.   Now, if I could only get
rid of that
> forced Windows XP purchase on the Dell desktop, I might even be tempted.
>
> I picked up a nice media server from that page.  600SC box, Pentium 4
> 2.4GHz, 128MB memory, lots of drive bays, 40GB 7200GB drive, Intel gigabit
> NIC.  $312 including tax, no shipping charges.
>
> The box was OS-free.  It is now running RH Linux 8.0 with a 3Ware IDE RAID
> controller; and 3 Maxtor 160GB 8MB cache 7200 rpm IDE drives, plus a 40GB
> boot drive. It's also running Samba for Windows networking.  :-)
>
>  /m
>
> On Mon, 26 May 2003 09:49:45 -0400, "John Beamish"

> wrote:
>
> >I _almost_ agree with the Dell recommendation.  Just remember that you
will have to pay shipping charges and at that price range they can
represent a non-trivial portion of the total cost.
> >
> >OTOH ... if you value your time at $50/hr the "cost" of
driving over,
picking up and bringing back the machine can easily match the Dell shipping costs.
> >  "Rich"  wrote in message news:3ed1b231$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> >     I wouldn't recommend a best buy no-name box or the similar cheap
ones at compusa either.  You can get an inexpensive Dell or HP box with
Windows XP preloaded for less than $400.
> >
> >     I thought I saw one at compusa earlier today but can't find it on
their web site.  Best Buy has a $499 HP system with a $100 gift card at
http://www.bestbuy.com/detail.asp?e=11216104&m=0&cat=0&scat=0. 
There is a Presario desktop at
http://www.bestbuy.com/detail.asp?e=11214707&m=488&cat=490&scat=491
which is
 also $499 and looks to have a $100 gift card and a $50 rebate.  The HP
system looks nicer as one might expect for $50 more.
> >
> >     On its web site, Dell has a 2.2 GHz, 256 MB RAM, 30 GB disk, CD-R/W
system for $299.  There is no free shipping this week so unless you can
convince them it may cost another $90 or so.
> >
> >  Rich
> >
> >    "Robert Comer"  wrote
in message
news:3ed19786{at}w3.nls.net...
> >    Cheapie consumers machines can do that nicely, so it'd probably pay
you
> >    time-wise and frustration-wise to get an XPHome machine and be done
with it.
> >    I saw one in the Best Buy paper for less than $400, gotta add a
monitor
> >    though. (or a Linux machine for even cheaper)
> >
> >    - Bob Comer
> >
> >
> >    "Ellen K."  wrote in message
> >    news:u343dv4kkk471lf1ls9r08qgb4tgji980b{at}4ax.com...
> >    > This isn't my development box, it's more like my email / internet /
> >    > cardfile box.
> >    >
> >    > On Wed, 14 May 2003 16:35:36 -0400, "Robert Comer"
> >    >  wrote in message
:
> >    >
> >    > >Ellen, I agree with Rich (for once. ), a new
install is the
best way
> >    to
> >    > >go over an upgrade.
> >    > >
> >    > >64MB would run W2K as Rich says, but it would be
pretty slow doing
> >    > >development stuff.  I'd get an upgrade if you can.
(you can never
have
> >    > >enough RAM is what I go by and it's the absolute
first upgrade I
think
> >    about
> >    > >if there's a performance problem...)
> >    > >
> >    > >- Bob Comer
> >    > >
> >    > >
> >    > >"Rich"  wrote in message
news:3ec2a71a{at}w3.nls.net...
> >    > >   The system requirements for Windows 2000 Professional can be
found at
> >    >
>http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/professional/evaluation/sysreqs/.
> >    64MB
> >    > >is the low end.
> >    > >
> >    > >   Again, if you do this I would recommend against an
upgrade.  Do
a
> >    clean
> >    > >install and reformat the hard disk.
> >    > >
> >    > >Rich
> >    > >
> >    > >  "Robert Comer"
 wrote in message
> >    > >news:3ec2a370$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> >    > >  > Would W2K even run on such a box?  (I bought
in in early '98 I
> >    think.)
> >    > >
> >    > >  Most likely, but there may be a driver problem if it's not
standard
> >    stuff
> >    > >  from that time.
> >    > >
> >    > >  >So far
> >    > >  > I can't find memory for it, only have 64MB.
> >    > >
> >    > >  What is it?  (Make/model)  I'll see if I can find
out more about
it.
> >    > >
> >    > >  > Also, with W2K wouldn't I want NTFS?   Right
now it's FAT32.
> >    > >
> >    > >  If all you're going to do is run one OS on it, yep,
you'd want
NTFS --
> >    the
> >    > >  W2K offers to upgrade your drive to NTFS, no problem. If you
have other
> >    > >  partitions, there's a convert program you run after
you do the
install.
> >    > >
> >    > >  - Bob Comer
> >    > >
> >    > >
> >    > >
> >    > >
> >    > >  "Ellen K" 
wrote in message
> >    > >  news:909377.ae7c35{at}harborwebs.com...
> >    > >  > Would W2K even run on such a box?  (I bought
in in early '98 I
> >    think.)
> >    > >So
> >    > >  far
> >    > >  > I can't find memory for it, only have 64MB.
> >    > >  >
> >    > >  > Also, with W2K wouldn't I want NTFS?   Right
now it's FAT32.
> >    > >  >
> >    > >  > > From: "Robert Comer"

> >    > >  > > Why not upgrade to W2KPro or WinXP -- it
wouldn't be the
speediest
> >    box
> >    > >  in
> >    > >  > > the world, but it'd be more stable and
run more of today's
> >    programming
> >    > >  > > stuff?
> >    > >  > > - Bob Comer
> >    > >  > > "Ellen K"
 wrote in message
> >    > >  > > news:509347.ac8012{at}harborwebs.com...
> >    > >  > >> Urk.  If that's the case then the
only thing I'd get with
98SE
> >    would
> >    > >be
> >    > >  > > the
> >    > >  > >> ability to run newer versions of
stuff that don't run on 95
any
> >    more
> >    > >  (like
> >    > >  > > the
> >    > >  > >> Norton security stuff).
> >    > >  > >>
> >    > >  > >> Anything resembling power management
is already disabled.
> >    > >  > >>
> >    > >  > >> How do you shut down to the
"orange-on-black idiot screen
only"?
> >    > >  > >>
> >    > >  > >> What about Rnaapp?
> >    > >  > >>
> >    > >  > >> Maybe the original hard drive is
starting to go bad... ?
> >    > >  > >>
> >    > >  > >> > From: "Frank Haber"

> >    > >  > >> > Why do you think 98SE will help
your shutdown problem?
Win 95
> >    did
> >    > >a
> >    > >  > > pretty
> >    > >  > >> > good job shutting down early APM
systems.  98SE had
notorious
> >    > >  problems
> >    > >  > > with
> >    > >  > >> > that, got two partially
successful patches for it, has
had whole
> >    > >  > > websites
> >    > >  > >> > written about its power
problems.  There are still a
bunch of
> >    > >  machines
> >    > >  > > out
> >    > >  > >> > there that won't shut down properly.
> >    > >  > >> > Have you considered just
disabling power management,
shutting
> >    down
> >    > >to
> >    > >  > > the
> >    > >  > >> > orange-on-black idiot screen
only, then leaning on the
power
> >    switch
> >    > >  for
> >    > >  > > five
> >    > >  > >> > seconds?
> >    > >
> >    > >
> >    >
>

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