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   There is.  The problem is that not all HTML is authored to provide =
fidelity when such an action is taken.  While my messages should all be =
pretty simple, I know I get HTML email from businesses sending me =
statements or newsletters that are formatted with multiple columns.  I'd =
never expect that to look good.  This and other reasons are why I = dislike
read as text as a solution for any problem I've heard of.

Rich

  "Robert Comer"  wrote in message =
news:3ebac085$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  >In this case the text message must be derived from the HTML.  How =
well that
  works depends on the HTML and how tricky it is.<

  Could some smartness be built in to strip the text out of an HTML =
email
  message, that, at least would let me know what the email is about =
without
  actually having to look at the source or turning on html viewing...

  - Bob Comer


  "Rich"  wrote in message news:3ebab683{at}w3.nls.net...
     The read as text should use the text body of the message if one was
  provided.  My posts, for example, include both a text and HTML body.  =
Some
  messages could have HTML only as this is legal.  In this case the text
  message must be derived from the HTML.  How well that works depends on =
the
  HTML and how tricky it is.

  Rich

    "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
  news:3ebaada1$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    No, I don't prefer HTML, I use the Read as text, but the =
implementation is
    faulty, some emails don't display at all, so you have to turn that =
feature
    off, so you are then vulnerable to web bugs and other HTML nasties.

    OE is just showing the plain text portion of HTML emails when, in =
fact, it
    should be stripping out the text from the html portion if no text =
portion
    exists.  Also link get royally screwed up...

    - Bob Comer

    IE crashed once again...



    "Rich"  wrote in message news:3eba9f23{at}w3.nls.net...
       The released OE has the "read as text" feature which I hate.  Are =
you
    saying that you prefer HTML email?

    Rich

    "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
    news:3eba97b4$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    It's not in OE yet. :(

    - Bob Comer 


    "Geo."  wrote in message =
news:3eba5be2$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    wow, have they added a webbug filter to outlook yet? (I'm not sure =
that it
    matters to me anymore as I stopped upgrading when they added the
  activation
    requirement but I'm still curious as to whether or not it's been
  addressed).

    Geo.
    "Rich"  wrote in message news:3eb9ffcc$1{at}w3.nls.net...
       George, this should interest you.

       The most recent release of Hotmail blocks images, both external =
and
  MHTML
    packaged, in messages by default.  If any are blocked there is a =
link to
    click on to view the message with the images.  Users can configure =
their
    account to disable this if they wish.

       The press release on this and other spam issues is at
    =
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2003/may03/05-08SayonaraPR.asp.

    Rich



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    =20
  George, this should interest
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PR.asp">http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2003/may03/05-08Sayonara=
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