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to: Rich
from: Glenn Meadows
date: 2003-05-08 22:24:12
subject: Re: `web bug` blocking

From: "Glenn Meadows" 

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David Holm, has done all the work in Polarbar.  As people get HTML mail =
that won't display properly, or is strange, they send a copy of the =
problem mail to him, and typically within 24 hours, he's checked in a = fix
for it, to cover that variant.  That makes it into the next hourly =
developer build, and then of course into the next release.  We typically =
have releases about every 30-45 days.  Last release. 1.25 was a =
particularly long cycle, as the focus was on nailing all the little = nasty
gnats that affected different platforms.

There is a full set of user settings to cover all the vagarities of = Linux
differences.  Some things (drop down boxes, list boxes, pick = lists) react
differently in the different Linux distributions.  Options = to allow for
those differences are built into the program so the end = user can tweak
for their system.  Basics are set based on the JVM and OS = that's being
used.

Also, all WebBugs are blocked (tested against Georges WebBug Test page).

--=20
Glenn M.


  "Rich"  wrote in message news:3ebb1907$1{at}w3.nls.net...
     OE does this.  The problem is that depending on the HTML the =
fidelity of the text varies.

  Rich

    "Glenn Meadows"  wrote in message =
news:3ebb1179{at}w3.nls.net...
    Polarbarmailer.org.  Text extracted from HTML when using the Text =
Browser
    mode.

    --
    Glenn M.


    "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
    news:3ebaada1$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    > No, I don't prefer HTML, I use the Read as text, but the =
implementation is
    > faulty, some emails don't display at all, so you have to turn that =
feature
    > off, so you are then vulnerable to web bugs and other HTML =
nasties.
    >
    > OE is just showing the plain text portion of HTML emails when, in =
fact, it
    > should be stripping out the text from the html portion if no text =
portion
    > exists.  Also link get royally screwed up...
    >
    > - Bob Comer
    >
    > IE crashed once again...
    >
    >
    >
    > "Rich"  wrote in message news:3eba9f23{at}w3.nls.net...
    >    The released OE has the "read as text" feature which I hate.  =
Are you
    > saying that you prefer HTML email?
    >
    > Rich
    >
    > "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
    > news:3eba97b4$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    > It's not in OE yet. :(
    >
    > - Bob Comer 
    >
    >
    > "Geo."  wrote in message =
news:3eba5be2$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    > wow, have they added a webbug filter to outlook yet? (I'm not sure =
that it
    > matters to me anymore as I stopped upgrading when they added the
    activation
    > requirement but I'm still curious as to whether or not it's been
    addressed).
    >
    > Geo.
    > "Rich"  wrote in message news:3eb9ffcc$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    >    George, this should interest you.
    >
    >    The most recent release of Hotmail blocks images, both external =
and
    MHTML
    > packaged, in messages by default.  If any are blocked there is a =
link to
    > click on to view the message with the images.  Users can configure =
their
    > account to disable this if they wish.
    >
    >    The press release on this and other spam issues is at
    > =
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2003/may03/05-08SayonaraPR.asp.
    >
    > Rich
    >
    >


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David Holm, has done all the work in Polarbar.  As people get =
HTML=20
mail that won't display properly, or is strange, they send a copy of the = problem=20
mail to him, and typically within 24 hours, he's checked in a fix for = it, to=20
cover that variant.  That makes it into the next hourly developer
= build,=20
and then of course into the next release.  We typically have =
releases about=20
every 30-45 days.  Last release. 1.25 was a particularly long =
cycle, as the=20
focus was on nailing all the little nasty gnats that affected different=20
platforms.
 
There is a full set of user settings to cover all the vagarities of =
Linux=20
differences.  Some things (drop down boxes, list boxes, pick
lists) = react=20
differently in the different Linux distributions.  Options to allow = for=20
those differences are built into the program so the end user can tweak = for their=20
system.  Basics are set based on the JVM and OS that's being =
used.
 
Also, all WebBugs are blocked (tested against Georges WebBug Test=20
page).
-- Glenn M.
 
 
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:3ebb1907$1{at}w3.nls.net... OE does this. The = problem is=20 that depending on the HTML the fidelity of the text = varies. Rich "Glenn Meadows" <gmeadow{at}comcast.net>">mailto:gmeadow{at}comcast.net">gmeadow{at}comcast.net> = wrote in=20 message news:3ebb1179{at}w3.nls.net...Po= larbarmailer.org. =20 Text extracted from HTML when using the Text=20 Browsermode.--Glenn M."Robert Comer" = <bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>">mailto:bobcomer{at}mindspring.com">bobcomer{at}mindspring.com> = wrote=20 in messagenews:3ebaada1$1{at}w3.nls.net...= >=20 No, I don't prefer HTML, I use the Read as text, but the = implementation=20 is> faulty, some emails don't display at all, so you have to = turn=20 that feature> off, so you are then vulnerable to web bugs and = other=20 HTML nasties.>> OE is just showing the plain text = portion of=20 HTML emails when, in fact, it> should be stripping out the = text from=20 the html portion if no text portion> exists. Also link = get=20 royally screwed up...>> - Bob Comer>> IE = crashed=20 once again...>>>> "Rich" <{at}> wrote = in=20 message news:3eba9f23{at}w3.nls.net...>= =20 The released OE has the "read as text" feature which I hate. = Are=20 you> saying that you prefer HTML email?>>=20 Rich>> "Robert Comer" <bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>">mailto:bobcomer{at}mindspring.com">bobcomer{at}mindspring.com> = wrote=20 in message> news:3eba97b4$1{at}w3.nls.net...= >=20 It's not in OE yet. :(>> - Bob Comer <I would like = it=20 there...>>>> "Geo." <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net> wrote in = message news:3eba5be2$1{at}w3.nls.net...= >=20 wow, have they added a webbug filter to outlook yet? (I'm not sure = that=20 it> matters to me anymore as I stopped upgrading when they = added=20 theactivation> requirement but I'm still curious as to = whether or=20 not it's beenaddressed).>> Geo.> "Rich" = <{at}>=20 wrote in message news:3eb9ffcc$1{at}w3.nls.net...= > =20 George, this should interest you.>> = The most=20 recent release of Hotmail blocks images, both external = andMHTML>=20 packaged, in messages by default. If any are blocked there is = a link=20 to> click on to view the message with the images. Users = can=20 configure their> account to disable this if they=20 wish.>> The press release on this = and other=20 spam issues is at> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2003/may03/05-08Sayonara= PR.asp">http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2003/may03/05-08Sayonara= PR.asp.>>=20 Rich>> ------=_NextPart_000_00CB_01C315B0.8D6304D0-- --- BBBS/NT v4.01 Flag-4
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