On 26 Oct at 21:18, Kurt Wismer of 1:259/423 wrote to Chris Maddock:
CM>> VIRUS originated (now lets see if I get this the right way around!) in
CM>> Europe and the VIRUS_INFO conference originated as  Zone1's answer to
CM>> the temerity of someone else starting a conference that wasn't in
CM>> Zone1. :) 
KW> that sounds SO believable...
:)
KW> it didn't start in one of those "southern" states, did it?
Dunno. Anything is possible.
KW>> of course my own experience does support it.. back when edwin cleton was
KW>> around, the pro-virus guys were a lot more prevailent and a lot more
KW>> vocal... rather suggestive of the vx crowd grudgingly giving up their
KW>> place here...
CM>> They were much more vocal - and organised. The Vx crowd was always
KW> which sets me to thinking... do you suppose that the current level of
KW> disorganization and lack of communication of innovations could spell a
KW> "vx darkages" when the current generation finally grows up and finds
KW> more interesting things to do?
Maybe but I doubt it. Many of them are now on the "net" and are vocal and 
semi-organised there. There is more anoninimity and they feel less threatened 
by exposure.
CM>> looking for a forum to have their discussions and it never happened on
CM>> any scale until NUKE_THEWORLD got going and then VIRUS_NFO. It seems
CM>> getting one's own echo was always the answer and we told them that -
CM>> often. In the meanwhile, there was friction between the AV crowd and
CM>> the Vx crowd in the two existant echoes. 
KW> of course now, blatantly and offensively pro-virus views are against the
KW> rules and offenders are subject to banishment... and traffic is WAY
KW> down...
Yes. That is because so many people have disconnected from BBS's in general 
and gone to "the net" where spam rules supreme and charges are everyday. This 
compares to "those nasty BBS's who threatened to charge us" and other such 
rubbish.
I've noticed quite a few have returned though. The thinking ones first as 
usual as they realise we are actually pretty good (and cheap). 
And faaaaaast! in comparison.
KW>> well, i have no complaints about him either... and i don't recall any
KW>> previous moderator inspiring such fanfare...
KW>> i do have complaints about the fanfare though, but that's not really
KW>> worth going into it's such a minor thing...
CM>> Eggzactly. Thats old age creeping up on you Kurt. You get more
CM>> tolerant as you get ancient. 
KW> i'm ancient? i'm still under the quarter century mark...
Oh-god! Your positively ancient then ! 
You are over 10 so you =must= be old. Ask any 10 yr old. 
I won't mention my age then. :)
Regards,
Chris Maddock
chrism@bbs.st.net.au
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