RJT>> How can you tell when you have one of those?

 ml>> hummm... it's basically the newer ones... i know that the AMD
 ml>> durons and thunderbirds fell into that catagory... their
 ml>> installation paperwork should carry the necessary info...

 RJT> Can't say I remember ever getting any installation paperwork
 RJT> for a CPU,  but then I'm not running anything that new here
 RJT> anyway.

wait till you get one where the heatsink has four circular foamrubber feet
in each corner... this is one that goes on the early duron or so... on the
chip, the actual die is raised and is about the size of your little
fingernail... that's all the area that the heatsink is to touch, too... and
there're surface mount chips on the ceramic... too much heatsink or getting
sloppy can cause a short on the cpu, itself...

wait till you get one you want/need to put a watercooler system on
>  they're out there now, today... i've even sold some
speciality cases that have "freon cooling" for lack of a better
term... they're basically freezers... compressor and such built in the
bottom of the case and special piping and "heatsink" up into the
case to mount on the cpu chip...

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