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to: BOB RUDOLPH
from: RYAN BAGUEROS
date: 1998-03-28 14:09:00
subject: Re: working class folks

        ù Quoting Bob Rudolph from a message to Ryan Bagueros  ù 
BR>    The rich corporations are a straw man.  Substitute stockholders, 
BR> and maybe  you have something - but without profits, who'd invest in 
BR>    As long as there is an imaginary line between doing well and not 
BR> doing well, half of the folks will come in above it and half below 
BR> it.  Please don't  ascribe this to malevolence on the part of anyone, 
BR> it is simply a matter of  cold fact.
See, it seems like you're going somewhere, and then it just falls flat. An 
"imaginary line" ..? Maybe you cannot draw a distinct line and it is a fuzzy 
issue, but there is definitely a difference between someone who works 40 
hours 
a week and someone who inherited $10 million in stocks from their father. 
We agree on a lot of things - it sucks to be poor, the rich are in control, 
etc. You seem to think that this is the only way, though. 
Your examples of Sweden and the Soviet Union are dead on, as far as I'm 
concerned. The redistribution of wealth in capitalism always fails, causing 
bureaucracy, further class division, and substandard, who-cares social 
organization. But essentially that is what the USSR & Sweden are, tiny 
communist experiments in a sea of capitalism, trying to compete in a global 
level while trying to control all production on a national level. The people 
do
not control production in those countries in the same way they do not do it 
here.
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