*** Quoting Philip Lozier from a message to Carol Shenkenberger ***

PL>> What percentage of -responding- nodes voted -for-, and what percentage
PL>> voted -against-... this is of -responding- nodes who actually particip

 CS> Ward posted that a moment ago.  I have only his report on it.  The
 CS> 33% above was wrong.

PL> Yes... I see what's going on now... sorta.  It gets a -little- clearer
PL> as we go along.  Seems only a few are privy to exactly what went on an
PL> being that Russia is fairly well isolated in the eyes of the rest of F
PL> it is still hard to determine exactly what the whole deal was though.

Exactly.  They didnt bother to send Ward the full details nor have they
sent ¨them to me.  Both of us knew there was a 'referendum' (vote?) and a
very ¨general 'gist'.

Whats happening is some folks are talking quietly and very privately on the
¨issue to many of us but we collectively do not have a whole picture. I
suspect ¨Malcolm (who's been sick and is catching up since this weekend)
may have the ¨only 'official' copy of the results.  Then again, he may not
have them either.

Fair is fair.  It pisses me off a bit that some take the stance that 'Ward
is ¨guilty' of something this time.  He's totally innocent this time.  He
brought ¨the issue to the ZCC right away as soon as he had some shreds of
info.  Z4C was ¨the first to note the numbers were too low to mean anything
should be done with ¨what little we have.

I am fully aware that most of my own information on this comes from the
radical ¨small percentage.  I do not mind that but I aint dumb.  I believe
the other ¨ZC's are just as wise on this.  Thats the damnable part of the
job, that you ¨sometimes have to accept that what you'd like everyone else
to want, aint ¨happen'n but can be confused easy if all the info you do get
direct, is from ¨the non-mainstream.

                                       xxcarol

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