JW>    In Quake you'll fight, say, three monsters at the max. There will be 
mor
JW> skill involved in the fighting. You won't be holding a gun in front of 
you.
JW> the games you've played before, you're still kind of distanced from the 
dea
JW> You're pointing the shotgun at something, you're pulling the trigger, and 
i
JW> shoots and the thing is dead. All you had to do was push the button. In 
Qua
JW> you'
JW> ll have to really kill things. You won't just push the trigger and hit 
t,
JW> you'll have to really beat the living **** out of the thing until it is 
dea
JW> and you're going to have to take a while, too. You're going to have to 
work
JW> it. You won't just have this arrow point-and-click kind of thing."
JW>         Do you see what I mean. Play the Quake demo and you will. The 
copy 
I'm confused as to your standpoint here, but I think i get the gist. I've 
tried Quake and it really wasn't a big deal, just another las-minute attempt 
to boost ID's sales over the New Big-Sellers, Apogee, after Duek got out and 
they saw what the Build 1070 (I think..correct me if another ver.) could be 
manipulated into doing, and they had barely scratched the surface of its 
potential and spent like a couple days fiddling with video support and 
therefore ended up with a  perpetually dim, linear game that reminded me of a 
HUGE deathmatch mode, without knowing the others on-line, because of the 
inavailability of any extra props or actors in the game. As to your quote 
here, I know the feeling. Try playing (I shouldn' say it, but) Witchaven. The 
only ranged weapon is a bow with puny little arrows and some magic fireballs, 
and those are WAYY later in the game, thus you spend maybe 2 levels 
ttempting
to fight a lynch mob of projectile-tossing baddies, who inevitably gang up on 
you,often (believe it) a phalanx formation. It's impossible without cheat 
codes. You have a couple swords, an ax, a spear or something, that damned 
ow,
a paring knife, your gloved fist, and some throwing hatchets. You can't hit 
enemies unless you're right there, and there's no fun left in the game. 
However, with Duke's awesome array of ranged weaponry, a slew of enemies can 
be met from afar, and still some up-close. The range certainly makes the 
difference.
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