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echo: holysmoke
to: PETER COGGON
from: JOHNJWILSON
date: 2009-06-28 20:41:20
subject: Re: evil

-> Hello Pastor John N' Shaggy...
-> 
->  -=> Quoting Johnjwilson to All <=-
-> 
->  Jo> There is no such thing as evil. the Universe is not evil. Evil is a
->  Jo> man-made concept. The only good is knowledge; the only
"evil" is
->  Jo> ignorance. Socrates knew what he was talking about. Bad things
happen,
->  Jo> invariably due to ignorance.
-> 
->   What you don't know can not hurt you .....YET ....give it time to get
there.

:-) I Hoped to hear from you...
-> 
->  Jo> On There being two Gods...
->  Jo> Jews and Muslims say there is one god...Christians believe in
three.
->  Jo> (Except for the heretical view expressed elsewhere on
line...)(where
->  Jo> somehow 'the Holy Spirit' is viewed as an error...)
-> 
->   OR ...you pray to someone already dead to get the ear of the GOD to
-> hear your views.    Being trying that for years....didn't work.
-> 
->  Jo> On 'bible thumping': I think it's great. the Bible is a glue to the
->  Jo> culture WRT literateness  as well as theologically. The more you
are
->  Jo> familiar with it the better it reads :-) Political conclusions from
->  Jo> biblical quotes should be met with a questioning attitude: It has
been
->  Jo> used as a propaganda vehicle for hundreds of years. The theologies
->  Jo> (plural) contained in the New Testament is a delightful subject:
Paul,
->  Jo> James, John: all quite different, and glossed over by many as
somehow
->  Jo> deprecating. There have been incredible strides in linguistic
->  Jo> evaluation of the new testament: Ancient languages (Aramaic,
->  Jo> Hellenistic Greek, The koine Greek used by new Testament
->  Jo> writers/gatherers...a lot of progress in clarity of meaning and
->  Jo> accuracy of translations ... leaves the King Jsmes Version of 1611
as
->  Jo> an honorable, excellent effort, but it IS 400 years old...I still
read
->  Jo> it with pleasure, but I have 11 other versions with which to
compare
->  Jo> notes... My main point is that the TEACHING of Jesus is almost
->  Jo> universally ignored - to think that by accepting Jesus on the cross
you
->  Jo> have a ticket to heaven while ignoring his teaching is I think one
of
->  Jo> the mainstays of atheism (which in the main is but rebellion
against
->  Jo> organized religion with its mind control and greed.) n la TV: "God
->  Jo> wants you to be rich! So send me money!"
-> 
-> Yes...Amen ...
-> 
->  Jo> :-)Going to church makes you a Christian, as does standing in your
->  Jo> garage, makes you a car. :-)
-> 
-> I would say my parents were Christian, and while I never saw them go
-> to church, they lived their lives in a correct manner. 

Absolutely. 

 
-> I don't need to stand in the garage to be a car.   I get gased up
-> anyhow, but when I go to hit the gas, I never go anywhere.
-> I need emmission controls.

Only if you're planning to be a monk... I'm glad you got revved up by my
Dodge...(I never metaphor I didn't like) 

-> 
->  Jo> Cheers!
->  Jo> John Wilson Pastor, Founder and Chief Poet
->  Jo> The Church of Variable Likelihood 
->  Jo> (The only Church in North America that doesn't accept money :-) )
-> 
-> Thanks John ...  As El Presidente of the People's Republic of JP
-> you have my endorsement.   I look forward to your next thumper .
-> 
 
Thanks! Does this mean I can become a citizen of TPROJP?
(I assume that "JP" stands for "John's Perfect".
Oh....Just Pretense?Justly
Pretentious? Juvenile Philosophy? Jesting Profundity? All of the above?

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