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   If rendering as text, blocking all "web bugs" is easy.  If rendering =
HTML, it all depends on how tuned to the HTML renderer his filtering is. =
 I'd be surprised if George has all the interesting cases.

Rich

  "Glenn Meadows"  wrote in message =
news:3ebb1fbd{at}w3.nls.net...
  David Holm, has done all the work in Polarbar.  As people get HTML =
mail that won't display properly, or is strange, they send a copy of the =
problem mail to him, and typically within 24 hours, he's checked in a = fix
for it, to cover that variant.  That makes it into the next hourly =
developer build, and then of course into the next release.  We typically =
have releases about every 30-45 days.  Last release. 1.25 was a =
particularly long cycle, as the focus was on nailing all the little = nasty
gnats that affected different platforms.

  There is a full set of user settings to cover all the vagarities of =
Linux differences.  Some things (drop down boxes, list boxes, pick = lists)
react differently in the different Linux distributions.  Options = to allow
for those differences are built into the program so the end = user can
tweak for their system.  Basics are set based on the JVM and OS = that's
being used.

  Also, all WebBugs are blocked (tested against Georges WebBug Test =
page).

  --=20
  Glenn M.


    "Rich"  wrote in message news:3ebb1907$1{at}w3.nls.net...
       OE does this.  The problem is that depending on the HTML the =
fidelity of the text varies.

    Rich

      "Glenn Meadows"  wrote in message =
news:3ebb1179{at}w3.nls.net...
      Polarbarmailer.org.  Text extracted from HTML when using the Text =
Browser
      mode.

      --
      Glenn M.


      "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
      news:3ebaada1$1{at}w3.nls.net...
      > No, I don't prefer HTML, I use the Read as text, but the =
implementation is
      > faulty, some emails don't display at all, so you have to turn =
that feature
      > off, so you are then vulnerable to web bugs and other HTML =
nasties.
      >
      > OE is just showing the plain text portion of HTML emails when, =
in fact, it
      > should be stripping out the text from the html portion if no =
text portion
      > exists.  Also link get royally screwed up...
      >
      > - Bob Comer
      >
      > IE crashed once again...
      >
      >
      >
      > "Rich"  wrote in message news:3eba9f23{at}w3.nls.net...
      >    The released OE has the "read as text" feature
which I hate.  =
Are you
      > saying that you prefer HTML email?
      >
      > Rich
      >
      > "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
      > news:3eba97b4$1{at}w3.nls.net...
      > It's not in OE yet. :(
      >
      > - Bob Comer 
      >
      >
      > "Geo."  wrote in message =
news:3eba5be2$1{at}w3.nls.net...
      > wow, have they added a webbug filter to outlook yet? (I'm not =
sure that it
      > matters to me anymore as I stopped upgrading when they added the
      activation
      > requirement but I'm still curious as to whether or not it's been
      addressed).
      >
      > Geo.
      > "Rich"  wrote in message news:3eb9ffcc$1{at}w3.nls.net...
      >    George, this should interest you.
      >
      >    The most recent release of Hotmail blocks images, both =
external and
      MHTML
      > packaged, in messages by default.  If any are blocked there is a =
link to
      > click on to view the message with the images.  Users can =
configure their
      > account to disable this if they wish.
      >
      >    The press release on this and other spam issues is at
      > =
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2003/may03/05-08SayonaraPR.asp.
      >
      > Rich
      >
      >


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   If
rendering as text, =
blocking all=20
"web bugs" is easy.  If rendering HTML, it all depends
on how tuned = to the=20
HTML renderer his filtering is.  I'd be surprised if George has all = the=20
interesting cases.
 
Rich
 

  "Glenn Meadows" <gmeadow{at}comcast.net>">mailto:gmeadow{at}comcast.net">gmeadow{at}comcast.net>
wrote =
in message=20
  news:3ebb1fbd{at}w3.nls.net...
  David Holm, has done all the work in Polarbar.  As people =
get HTML=20
  mail that won't display properly, or is strange, they send a copy of =
the=20
  problem mail to him, and typically within 24 hours, he's checked in a =
fix for=20
  it, to cover that variant.  That makes it into the next hourly =
developer=20
  build, and then of course into the next release.  We typically =
have=20
  releases about every 30-45 days.  Last release. 1.25 was a =
particularly=20
  long cycle, as the focus was on nailing all the little nasty gnats =
that=20
  affected different platforms.
   
  There is a full set of user settings to cover all the vagarities =
of Linux=20
  differences.  Some things (drop down boxes, list boxes, pick =
lists) react=20
  differently in the different Linux distributions.  Options to =
allow for=20
  those differences are built into the program so the end user can tweak =
for=20
  their system.  Basics are set based on the JVM and OS that's =
being=20
  used.
   
  Also, all WebBugs are blocked (tested against Georges WebBug Test =

  page).
  -- Glenn M.
   
   
  

    "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:3ebb1907$1{at}w3.nls.net...
       OE
does this.  =
The problem is=20
    that depending on the HTML the fidelity of the text =
varies.
     
    Rich
     
    
      "Glenn Meadows" <gmeadow{at}comcast.net>">mailto:gmeadow{at}comcast.net">gmeadow{at}comcast.net>
=
wrote in=20
      message news:3ebb1179{at}w3.nls.net...Po=
larbarmailer.org. =20
      Text extracted from HTML when using the Text=20
      Browsermode.--Glenn
M."Robert Comer" =
<bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>=20">mailto:bobcomer{at}mindspring.com">bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>=20
      wrote in messagenews:3ebaada1$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
>=20
      No, I don't prefer HTML, I use the Read as text, but the =
implementation=20
      is> faulty, some emails don't display at all, so you have =
to turn=20
      that feature> off, so you are then vulnerable to web bugs =
and other=20
      HTML nasties.>> OE is just showing
the plain text =
portion of=20
      HTML emails when, in fact, it> should be stripping out the =
text=20
      from the html portion if no text portion> exists.  =
Also link=20
      get royally screwed up...>> - Bob =
Comer>> IE=20
      crashed once
again...>>>>
"Rich" =
<{at}>=20
      wrote in message news:3eba9f23{at}w3.nls.net...>=
   =20
      The released OE has the "read as text" feature which I
hate.  =
Are=20
      you> saying that you prefer HTML
email?>>=20
      Rich>> "Robert Comer"
<bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>=20">mailto:bobcomer{at}mindspring.com">bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>=20
      wrote in message> news:3eba97b4$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
>=20
      It's not in OE yet. :(>> - Bob
Comer <I would =
like it=20
     
there...>>>>
"Geo." <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
wrote in =
message news:3eba5be2$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
>=20
      wow, have they added a webbug filter to outlook yet? (I'm not sure =
that=20
      it> matters to me anymore as I stopped upgrading when they =
added=20
      theactivation> requirement but I'm still
curious as to =
whether=20
      or not it's
beenaddressed).>>
Geo.> =
"Rich"=20
      <{at}> wrote in message news:3eb9ffcc$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
>   =20
      George, this should interest =
you.>>    The=20
      most recent release of Hotmail blocks images, both external=20
      andMHTML> packaged, in messages by
default.  If =
any are=20
      blocked there is a link to> click on to view the message =
with the=20
      images.  Users can configure their> account
to disable =
this if=20
      they
wish.>>    The
press release on =
this and=20
      other spam issues is at> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2003/may03/05-08Sayonara=
PR.asp">http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2003/may03/05-08Sayonara=
PR.asp.>>=20
      =
Rich>>

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