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from: Ross Cassell
date: 2009-05-28 15:00:50
subject: Unfathomable

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What the story elaborates on below is very scary if it can be upheld..

Just think, on major holidays, one couldnt say grace over a meal with
family and friends without a permit!

If this Pastors get togethers in his home disrupted neighbors, caused
traffic and parking problems, I could see the city getting him on some
ordinance violation.

If the Pastor and his friends were getting in the faces of the neighbors or
otherwise disturbing the peace, I could see the city getting him.

But if all they were doing were getting together behind closed doors to
share a meal and Bible Studies and Prayers, who is getting harmed,
providing such gatherings arent disturbing or inconveniencing the
neighbors?

I have seen people throw pool parties that caused more disruption.

Good grief, read on..

Hello All!

Couple Ordered to Stop Holding Bible Study at Home Without Permit

Thursday , May 28, 2009

Pastor David Jones and his wife Mary have been told that they cannot invite
friends to their San Diego, Calif. home for a bible study  unless they are
willing to pay tens of thousands of dollars to San Diego County.

"On Good Friday we had an employee from San Diego County come to our
house, and inform us that the bible study that we were having was a
religious assembly, and in violation of the code in the county." David
Jones told FOX News.

"We told them this is not really a religious assembly  this is just a
bible study with friends. We have a meal, we pray, that was all,"
Jones said.

A few days later, the couple received a written warning that cited
"unlawful use of land," ordering them to either "stop
religious assembly or apply for a major use permit," the couple's
attorney Dean Broyles told San Diego news station 10News.

But the major use permit could cost the Jones' thousands of dollars just to
have a few friends over.

For David and Mary Jones, it's about more than a question of money.

"The government may not prohibit the free exercise of religion,"
Broyles told FOX News. "I believe that our Founding Fathers would roll
over in their grave if they saw that here in the year 2009, a pastor and
his wife are being told that they cannot hold a simple bible study in their
own home."

Fidonet Feeds Or Fidons involved," Mary Jones said. "There are
thousands and Your Newsreader: http://www.easternstar.infore interested in
is setting a precedent here  before it goes any further  and that we have
it settled for the future."

The couple is planning to dispute the county's order this week.

If San Diego County refuses to allow the pastor and his wife to continue
gathering without acquiring a permit, they will consider a lawsuit in
federal court.


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