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echo: holysmoke
to: TIM RICHARDSON
from: Ed Hulett
date: 2009-05-21 13:47:40
subject: HELLO?

TIM RICHARDSON -> ED HULETT wrote:
 TR> On 05-20-09, ED HULETT said to ROSS SAUER:


 JB>>> I notice you have gone mute with me on this topic.


 RS>> Because you have no clue as to what being pro-choice *REALLY* is, not
 RS>> your right-wing "Christian" fantasies.


 EH>> You are predictable. You can't think beyond personal attacks.


 EH>> If it was really "pro-choice" abortion wouldn't be
the main issue
 TR> with you
 EH>> people. Plus, you wouldn't try to demean those who say life is a choice.


 TR> If Sarah Palin's daughter had gone and aborted her baby instead of having it,
 TR> he and his friends would have hated her for it. They'd have been waving that
 TR> around like a banner, calling the girl all sorts of names.

The claims of hypocrisy would be shouted far and wide... oh wait, they
already make that claim.

 TR> The girl had her baby, and thats probably even worse! They've been raging
 TR> about it ever since.

Yes, they try to use her pregnancy as evidence that abstinence doesn't
work. Of course, they have to ignore the fact that she obviously didn't
abstain. She ended up giving in to her scum of a boyfriend.

 TR> Otto brings it up every once in a while himself, as though its
`just terrible'
 TR> that she had the baby and didn't get an abortion! In fact, Otto's problem is
 TR> that she even had sex in the first place!

Yeah, his very words have been "Ask Bristol Palin how abstinence only
works." Since she didn't use ANY option to prevent her pregnancy, she
isn't a very good source other than abstinence would have definitely
prevented it.

And her mother and conservatives have never advocated "abstinence only."

 TR> Otto's all `well....they're gonna do it, so what!' when it comes to teenagers
 TR> doing sex. And he's been all `tolerant' on the subject for many years.

Apparently the thought of teens having sex excites him.

 TR> But when Sarah Palin got on the national ticket, and Otto found out her
 TR> daughter was pregnant out of wedlock......he was immediately accusatory
 TR> over it, and has denounced the girl and her mother ever since.

If it would have been a teen daughter of Joe Biden, Sauer wouldn't have said a thing.

 TR> Otto isn't on one side or the other on the abortion issue....Otto goes any
 TR> which way the wind blows. If Otto's Fido friends, like Danny boy, Ackley, etc
 TR> etc, were anti-abortion, Otto would be raging at any woman or girl who even
 TR> went near an abortion clinic.

That is a very likely situation. Sauer has no conviction.

Ed

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