Jeff Binkley -> Ed Hulett wrote:


 RS>>>>>>> As to religious controversy, I'm watching
the mess at Notre
 RC>>>>>>   Dame, a RS> mess created by a bunch of grandstanding
 RC>>>>>>   "Christians" and political RS>
hacks like the whack job
 RC>>>>>>   Alan Keyes.

 RC>>>>>> He supports abortion and stem cell research,
Catholics oppose
 RC>>>>>> it, why cant they oppose him?

 RS>>>>> Obama supports *CHOICE* and research on embryos
that are going
 RS>>> to  be
 RS>>>>> thrown away, anyway.

 RS>>>>> These right-wingers use loaded language like
"pro-abortion"
 RS>>> and  such,
 RS>>>>> to disort Obama's positions.

 RS>>>>> Extreme anti-choice measures have gone into effect, including
 RS>>> banning
 RS>>>>> abortions even if the pregnancy is threatening the woman's
 RS>>>>> life, in Central and a few South American countries.
 RS>>>>> And women are dying.

 RS>>>>> That is the goal of people like Keyes, Randall
Terry and these
 RS>>>>> hypocrites among the minority that are yelling the loudest.

 JB>>>> And yet you say nothing about the 32+ million children that
 JB>>>> have been aborted since abortion was legalized.  You say
 EH>> nothing about the  RS> hideous
 JB>>>> partial birth abortion.  It is all politics to you and your
 EH>> ilk.

 RS>>> It *IS* politics.

 EH>> Abortion has nothing to do with politics despite how hard the left
 EH>> tries to make it so.

 RS>>> Whether you like it or not.

 EH>> You have no clue.

 RS>>> If it really was for the "life of the baby," these noisy
 RS>>> anti-choice activists would be putting more efforts into
 RS>>> advocating for prenatal and postnatal care, and better education
 RS>>> to prevent pregnancies in the first place.

 EH>> So, personal accountability is out of the question, eh? It's either
 EH>> public funding for prenatal and postnatal care or legalized abortion?

 EH>> What about the choice the potential parents made when they decided to
 EH>> have unprotected sex?

 RS>>> Instead we get this "abtinence only" fantasy which while in
 RS>>> theory would work, in practice it doesn't.

 EH>> No one is advocating abstinence only. All that is asked is that
 EH>> abstinence be taught as one form of birth control.

 RS>>> Just ask Bristol Palin.

 EH>> She says that abstinence would have prevented her pregnancy.

 JB> I am unaware of any where this would not be the case.  I and sure Sauer
 JB> can come up with one.

Sauer is only parroting those with whom he agrees. He has no original
thought beyond the party line.

Ed

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