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to: Vladimir Donskoy
from: Michiel van der Vlist
date: 2006-04-20 19:37:00
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Hello Vladimir.

20 Apr 06 10:27, you wrote to me:

 MvdV>>>> Why all this silly talk about "having a zone of
their own"?
 MvdV>>>> It is just a number man!

 RW>>> No, it's also self rule, for them.

 MV>> They'd still be subject to policy no matter what number stands
 MV>> before the colon.

 MV>> Yes, they coukd write a zone policy. as they can write a region
 MV>> policy now. Germany did that.

 VD> No, "Local Policy" may not contradict Policy,

Exactly! So changing zones is not going to help, you will *still* be
subject to the same policy.

 VD> so ZMH problem may be decide only for Zone Policy (ZMH establish by
 VD> ZC).

1) How is having a zone of your own going to solve the ZMH problem? It
would *still* be 9 hours wide at least. Unless your break it up into
several smaller zones you will still be saddlded with an inconvenient ZMH.

2) You say this has been going on for 15 years. Yet you *never* filed a
proposal to change Z2MH in all those years. You should have done that 10
years ago when it still mattered. Now it is just water under the bridge.
Besides their are alternative solutions; you already mentioned one
yourself> NMH. There is not really a rule that dictates that a zone can
only have *one* ZMH. Yet you never even brought the matter up.

3) You shot yourself in the foot with your Z6 number. For that number you
have to onbserve Z6MH. which is ... eh . .somewhere around noon local for
you. That does not seem to bother you though.... Poof goes your ZMH
argument.

 VD> And new control/management level between RC and NCs may not
 VD> include by Local Policy... Other problems of our region may decide
 VD> only on Zone level too.

What other problems?

 VD> At first Ward must want self-election. And on current time we have
 VD> only 1 vote on Z2C election - so, Russian ZC can't victory...

I am not sure you have even that one vote, Your RC appears not to be all
that enthousiastic about the Z7 idea.

Even zo, you can't get *one* other RC to support your case? Not even ONE
out of the odd thirty o so. Not *ONE*???

Maybe your case is not as strong as you will have us believe....

 VD> But I think that if R50 stay in Z2 - ZMH problem can't decide:

I don't believe ZMH is a *real* problem. You have lived for over 15 years
with it. I supect you have an ulterior motive.

 VD> Of cource, may exist Zone Policy specially for us...

You can obtain the same result with a region policy.

 VD> At any case this variant better then current state.

You have failed to convince me that it is better for FidoNet.


Michiel

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