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to: Mike `/m`
from: Randy H
date: 2003-05-27 21:16:34
subject: Re: dumb upgrade question

From: "Randy H" 

Just slid by the CompUSA: Maxtor 160 GB w/8MB Cache.

$199
- $30 in-store rebate
- $70 mail-in rebate

Ends 5/30.

"Mike '/m'"  wrote in message
news:oeq4dv8508fibnkjhp6pb7o3gefjrfqvm9{at}4ax.com...
> Hmmm... I may look into picking up a couple more for hot spares.  ;-)
>
> My next planned purchase is a gigabit network switch.  Then I can put lots
> more stuff on the media server, and do things like editting across the
> network.
>
>   /m
>
> On Mon, 26 May 2003 13:12:58 -0500, "Randy H"

> wrote:
>
> >Sam's Club is selling those 160 GB drives for $150/ea. And I heard that
> >CompUSA is flogging the same drive after rebates for ~$100.
> >
> >I'm living dangerously right now-I broke my IBM 60 GB mirror into a
striped
> >120 GB set to house my media.
> >
> >"Mike '/m'"  wrote in message
> >news:0bf4dvkgl7nmhjsqlhl15oim40g0coamgt{at}4ax.com...
> >>
> >> If you check www.dell.com.nytimesoffer once or twice a week, you'll
often
> >> see a "free shipping" promotion.   Now, if I could
only get rid of that
> >> forced Windows XP purchase on the Dell desktop, I might even be
tempted.
> >>
> >> I picked up a nice media server from that page.  600SC box, Pentium 4
> >> 2.4GHz, 128MB memory, lots of drive bays, 40GB 7200GB drive, Intel
gigabit
> >> NIC.  $312 including tax, no shipping charges.
> >>
> >> The box was OS-free.  It is now running RH Linux 8.0 with a 3Ware IDE
RAID
> >> controller; and 3 Maxtor 160GB 8MB cache 7200 rpm IDE drives, plus a
40GB
> >> boot drive. It's also running Samba for Windows networking.  :-)
> >>
> >>  /m
> >>
> >> On Mon, 26 May 2003 09:49:45 -0400, "John Beamish"

> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >I _almost_ agree with the Dell recommendation.  Just
remember that you
> >will have to pay shipping charges and at that price range they can
represent
> >a non-trivial portion of the total cost.
> >> >
> >> >OTOH ... if you value your time at $50/hr the
"cost" of driving over,
> >picking up and bringing back the machine can easily match the Dell
shipping
> >costs.
> >> >  "Rich"  wrote in message
news:3ed1b231$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> >     I wouldn't recommend a best buy no-name box or the
similar cheap
> >ones at compusa either.  You can get an inexpensive Dell or HP box with
> >Windows XP preloaded for less than $400.
> >> >
> >> >     I thought I saw one at compusa earlier today but
can't find it on
> >their web site.  Best Buy has a $499 HP system with a $100 gift card at
>
>http://www.bestbuy.com/detail.asp?e=11216104&m=0&cat=0&scat=0.
 There is
a
> >Presario desktop at
>
>http://www.bestbuy.com/detail.asp?e=11214707&m=488&cat=490&scat=491
which
is
> > also $499 and looks to have a $100 gift card and a $50 rebate.  The HP
> >system looks nicer as one might expect for $50 more.
> >> >
> >> >     On its web site, Dell has a 2.2 GHz, 256 MB RAM, 30 GB disk,
CD-R/W
> >system for $299.  There is no free shipping this week so unless you can
> >convince them it may cost another $90 or so.
> >> >
> >> >  Rich
> >> >
> >> >    "Robert Comer"
 wrote in message
> >news:3ed19786{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> >    Cheapie consumers machines can do that nicely, so it'd probably
pay
> >you
> >> >    time-wise and frustration-wise to get an XPHome machine and be
done
> >with it.
> >> >    I saw one in the Best Buy paper for less than $400, gotta add a
> >monitor
> >> >    though. (or a Linux machine for even cheaper)
> >> >
> >> >    - Bob Comer
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >    "Ellen K."
 wrote in message
> >> >    news:u343dv4kkk471lf1ls9r08qgb4tgji980b{at}4ax.com...
> >> >    > This isn't my development box, it's more like my email /
internet /
> >> >    > cardfile box.
> >> >    >
> >> >    > On Wed, 14 May 2003 16:35:36 -0400, "Robert
Comer"
> >> >    >  wrote in message
:
> >> >    >
> >> >    > >Ellen, I agree with Rich (for once.
), a new install is the
> >best way
> >> >    to
> >> >    > >go over an upgrade.
> >> >    > >
> >> >    > >64MB would run W2K as Rich says, but it
would be pretty slow
doing
> >> >    > >development stuff.  I'd get an upgrade if
you can. (you can
never
> >have
> >> >    > >enough RAM is what I go by and it's the
absolute first upgrade
I
> >think
> >> >    about
> >> >    > >if there's a performance problem...)
> >> >    > >
> >> >    > >- Bob Comer
> >> >    > >
> >> >    > >
> >> >    > >"Rich"  wrote in message
news:3ec2a71a{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> >    > >   The system requirements for Windows 2000
Professional can be
> >found at
> >> >    >
> >>http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/professional/evaluation/sysreqs/.
> >> >    64MB
> >> >    > >is the low end.
> >> >    > >
> >> >    > >   Again, if you do this I would recommend
against an upgrade.
Do
> >a
> >> >    clean
> >> >    > >install and reformat the hard disk.
> >> >    > >
> >> >    > >Rich
> >> >    > >
> >> >    > >  "Robert Comer"
 wrote in message
> >> >    > >news:3ec2a370$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> >    > >  > Would W2K even run on such a box?  (I
bought in in early
'98 I
> >> >    think.)
> >> >    > >
> >> >    > >  Most likely, but there may be a driver
problem if it's not
> >standard
> >> >    stuff
> >> >    > >  from that time.
> >> >    > >
> >> >    > >  >So far
> >> >    > >  > I can't find memory for it, only have 64MB.
> >> >    > >
> >> >    > >  What is it?  (Make/model)  I'll see if I
can find out more
about
> >it.
> >> >    > >
> >> >    > >  > Also, with W2K wouldn't I want NTFS? 
 Right now it's
FAT32.
> >> >    > >
> >> >    > >  If all you're going to do is run one OS on
it, yep, you'd
want
> >NTFS --
> >> >    the
> >> >    > >  W2K offers to upgrade your drive to NTFS,
no problem. If you
> >have other
> >> >    > >  partitions, there's a convert program you
run after you do
the
> >install.
> >> >    > >
> >> >    > >  - Bob Comer
> >> >    > >
> >> >    > >
> >> >    > >
> >> >    > >
> >> >    > >  "Ellen K"
 wrote in message
> >> >    > >  news:909377.ae7c35{at}harborwebs.com...
> >> >    > >  > Would W2K even run on such a box?  (I
bought in in early
'98 I
> >> >    think.)
> >> >    > >So
> >> >    > >  far
> >> >    > >  > I can't find memory for it, only have 64MB.
> >> >    > >  >
> >> >    > >  > Also, with W2K wouldn't I want NTFS? 
 Right now it's
FAT32.
> >> >    > >  >
> >> >    > >  > > From: "Robert Comer"

> >> >    > >  > > Why not upgrade to W2KPro or
WinXP -- it wouldn't be the
> >speediest
> >> >    box
> >> >    > >  in
> >> >    > >  > > the world, but it'd be more
stable and run more of
today's
> >> >    programming
> >> >    > >  > > stuff?
> >> >    > >  > > - Bob Comer
> >> >    > >  > > "Ellen K"
 wrote in message
> >> >    > >  > > news:509347.ac8012{at}harborwebs.com...
> >> >    > >  > >> Urk.  If that's the case
then the only thing I'd get
with
> >98SE
> >> >    would
> >> >    > >be
> >> >    > >  > > the
> >> >    > >  > >> ability to run newer
versions of stuff that don't run on
95
> >any
> >> >    more
> >> >    > >  (like
> >> >    > >  > > the
> >> >    > >  > >> Norton security stuff).
> >> >    > >  > >>
> >> >    > >  > >> Anything resembling power
management is already
disabled.
> >> >    > >  > >>
> >> >    > >  > >> How do you shut down to the
"orange-on-black idiot
screen
> >only"?
> >> >    > >  > >>
> >> >    > >  > >> What about Rnaapp?
> >> >    > >  > >>
> >> >    > >  > >> Maybe the original hard
drive is starting to go bad... ?
> >> >    > >  > >>
> >> >    > >  > >> > From: "Frank
Haber" 
> >> >    > >  > >> > Why do you think 98SE
will help your shutdown problem?
> >Win 95
> >> >    did
> >> >    > >a
> >> >    > >  > > pretty
> >> >    > >  > >> > good job shutting down
early APM systems.  98SE had
> >notorious
> >> >    > >  problems
> >> >    > >  > > with
> >> >    > >  > >> > that, got two partially
successful patches for it, has
> >had whole
> >> >    > >  > > websites
> >> >    > >  > >> > written about its power
problems.  There are still a
> >bunch of
> >> >    > >  machines
> >> >    > >  > > out
> >> >    > >  > >> > there that won't shut
down properly.
> >> >    > >  > >> > Have you considered
just disabling power management,
> >shutting
> >> >    down
> >> >    > >to
> >> >    > >  > > the
> >> >    > >  > >> > orange-on-black idiot
screen only, then leaning on the
> >power
> >> >    switch
> >> >    > >  for
> >> >    > >  > > five
> >> >    > >  > >> > seconds?
> >> >    > >
> >> >    > >
> >> >    >
> >>
> >
>

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