JOHNJWILSON -> ED HULETT wrote:


 ->>>> No, it is life and death, whether you like it or not.

 J>>> It's like getting a tooth pulled.


 RS>>>>> You remember what abortion was like, *PRIOR* to Roe V. Wade?
 RS>>>>> A hodgepodge of laws from state to state, with rich
women paying
 RS>>>>> under the table or going on "European Vacations."
 RS>>>>> And poor women died.
 J>>> This was true when I was growing up.

 ->> Fewer women got abortions back then.
 J> Perhaps. As it was a scandalous illegal act, fewer were reported.

So, how do you know what Sauer said was true when you were growing up?

 ->>>> That makes no sense.  What they want is life.  You distort the
 J> issue so
 ->>>> that you can sleep well at night...

 J>>> THAT is worth my consideration...:-|

 J>>>   In none of your response did you show
 ->>>> any concern for the unborn.  None at all.  That is telling.

 J>>> Yep. A child is born alive when the first breath of air is taken.

 ->> It is alive long before that.

 J> :-) My birth certificate says: "Born alive"

I certainly hope so.

Obviously you weren't dead in the womb.


 J>>> Prior to that it is just a bunch of interesting collections of
 J> molecules...

 ->> That's what those who want to dehumanize the unborn in order to sleep
 J> better at
 ->> night.
 J> Well, I sleep very well, without a thought concerning abortion. :-)

Good for you.

 J> And, awake, have no desire for an unwanted child to be brought into this
 J> world. Or forcing any woman to do so.

Ah yes, death is better than being wanted. And we can't force those women
to take responsibility for their actions.

 J> If your religion, (conscience, opinion) differs (As it certainly does)
 J> I think an attempt to change your mind would be wrong.

Fine, but please come into the discussion honestly and admit that abortion
is ending a human life.


 J>>> I think many (most?) women would disagree with my opinion...whatever
 J> they
 J>>> decide. If I were a woman, I'd not let Catholic Dogma rule me.

 ->> It isn't Catholic dogma.
 J> It most certainly is.

No, it is not.

 J>  It is a scientific fact that the unborn baby is alive...

 J> "Signs of life" but not alive and not 'a scientific
fact.', though many
 J> think it is.

Wow! So you also think we should unplug all those accident victims on life
support too if they aren't convenient?

Signs of life mean it is alive. Look it up.

 J> We differ.
 J> Peace.

We differ in a lot of things.


 J>>> Democrats --  The party of the perfect, pragmatic president.

 ->> Right, he's the second coming of Christ.

 J> :-)


 J>>> economic slavery .... the choice of Leo Strauss and the neocons...

 ->> "[E]conomic slavery?"
 J> Yes. Absolute servitude to the elitists.

You mean like serving Obama and his elitist administration? Where is having
the authority to fire the CEO of a corporation in the Constitution? Where
is the authority for forcing another corporation to merge with another?

Is it not elitist for the director of Homeland Security to release an
advisory labeling anyone who disagrees with the president a right-wing
extremist and potential terrorist?


 J>>> -- I await the return of the Republican Party.


 J>>> Y'know I think we just might differ on some things...

 ->> So you would like to see the Republican party gone?

 J> No. I want it back.

Good. Sauer wants it gone.

Ed

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