"TIM RICHARDSON -> ROSS SAUER"  wrote in
news:10666$HOLYSMOKE{at}JamNNTPd:

 TR>> You go after Jesus as though you must drag him, also, down to
 TR> *your* TR> level in order to feel good about yourself, in much the
 TR> same way you TR> do others.

 RS>> How do you go from my complaints about "God told me it's ok to get
 TR> rich RS>from my pulpit" preachers to Jesus?

 TR> You aren't `discussing' religion......you are slamming `religionists'.

Who deserve slamming.

 TR> There is nothing wrong with being `rich'. Nowhere in the bible can you
 TR> point to a single admonishment by `God'....or `Jesus' against being
 TR> rich, or even well-to-do.

I never said there was.
But didn't Jesus tell a rich guy to give everything to the poor and follow
him, but the rich guy wouldn't?

 RS>> I simply posted an article about a controversy, where two sets of
 RS>> preachers say two different things, one groups saying Jesus was
 TR> poor, RS>the other saying Jesus was rich.

 TR> Jesus was neither one. Jesus had a good trade, and up till he began
 TR> his ministry he made a decent living at it.

Maybe.

 RS>> Jerry Falwell himself began his career using his electronic pulpit
 TR> to RS>defend racism and segregation.

 TR> Again....you are focusing on a `person' who wasn't exactly the ideal
 TR> of a `man of God'.

You kidding?
Even Hollywood could never come up with a character like Falwell.
Self-righteous, hypocritical, theocratic, serial liar, greedy, and those
are his good points.

 RS>> When it came to a choice between lowering the big fat salary he had
 TR> his RS>church give him, and taking money from a cult leader, (Moon,)
 TR> who RS>Falwell had condemned, Falwell took the Moon money.

 TR> You are tossing out firebrands against someone you intensely disliked,

Gee, now why would I dislike Falwell? (sarcasm off)

 TR> disparaging his offspring as well, and (more likely than not) probably
 TR> don't know what you are talking about (not a new situation for you).

Look it up.

 RS>> Now that he's died, Falwell's son has taken over the Falwell
 TR> franchise, RS>and is running it just like Daddy did.

 RS>> By preaching hatred, lies and begging for money.

 TR> You focus far too often on the bad *you* see in others......you should
 TR> focus a little closer to home....and deal with yourself, first, before
 TR> trying to spread your sense of moral outrage at others.

I'm not a national figure, begging for money on TV, encouraging Ugandan
politicians to pass a "death penalty for gays" law, trying to get
"Christian nation" laws passed in this country, using religion to justify
unreasoning hatred.

Christians don't molest children. HOMOs do. - Tim Richardson

Why you ignorant faggot-lovin' idiot. **HOLYSMOKE** is not only a
`FLAME' echo, it harbors suck-dick faggot-lovin' idiots like you.
- Tim Richardson

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