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echo: fmail_help
to: mark lewis
from: Michiel van der Vlist
date: 2005-01-30 17:50:02
subject: Fmail and Jam

>>> it is a(nother) contribution from gerard van der land, the gecho
 >>> author, and is designed to allow the HMB to be easier used in a
 >>> multitasking/multinode setup...
 >
 >  MvdV> Pity he never submitted the documentation to the FTSC
 >  MvdV> though....
 >
 > i can do that, i guess... the doc is released to all and sundry...

I saw you initiated it. Good.

 >  MvdV> Well, it seems than that FM and Fmail don't work well together
 >  MvdV> on this issue. FM cerates the semaphore, Fmail recognises it,
 >  MvdV> but something goes wrong between the two. :-(

 > ummm... do you have fmail set for "message base sharing"??

Yes. Ever since I had a LAN.

 > try toggling that the other way and see what happens...
 > does your setup actually have more than one app accessing
 > the message bases at any time?

Presently Fmail and the editor are the only applications accessing the
message base. At times two incarnations of the message editor.

 >  MvdV> Perhaps Gecho will work better in combination with FM, but
 >  MvdV> there is no way I am going back to Gecho. That way I'll just
 >  MvdV> reintroduce the problems that were the reason for dumping it
 >  MvdV> in favour of Fmail 10 years ago...

 > yeah, no doubt... there is that other tosser, FE, too ;)

Hmmm....

 >  MvdV> I am not sure if I will continue on this path however. If I
 >  MvdV> can't make FM do quoting of initials - one way or another - I
 >  MvdV> will move on. I had to take quit a lot of flak over using an
 >  MvdV> editor that does not support it and I feel they do have a
 >  MvdV> point - in part.

 > yes, they do but geez... some folk fuss just to fuss, ya know...

I know. And I also know that sometimes I attract flak for reasons not
related to the ammo used.

But in this case I think they have a point. Initialized quoting improves
reading pleasure.

 >  MvdV> So if I am going to change editors, it will to one that
 >  MvdV> supports quoting of initials. Among other things. CHAR kludge
 >  MvdV> support being one of them. I write in German areas and there
 >  MvdV> it is sort of a must...

 > hummm... you might want to take a look at the original TimED,

I'll keep that in mind...

 > then... not the newer stuff that andrew clarke has
 > done... i've the original TimED and the one or two y2k
 > patches by the snooze editor available... TimED does
 > initials and has character mappings and such... i hear
 > decent things about golded, too, but i've never played with
 > it... the reason i say to look at the older version of
 > TimED is because andrew doesn't do JAM so the JAM stuff
 > doesn't work in the latest stuff... and i don't know C and
 > so i've not dug into it, either...

You mean it comes with source? Love that!

Cheers, Michiel

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