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to: Jim Holsonback
from: Charles Angelich
date: 2003-06-14 02:52:08
subject: Old Toys Nostalgia

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Hello Jim - 

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RJT>> Oh, it sure is. People deal with entirely different
RJT>> levels of stuff these days. I do too, for the most part,
RJT>> which is why it's kinda funny that I have all this
RJT>> knowledge that I don't use about the technology, and all
RJT>> these parts that I'll probably never go through, and
RJT>> spend more time than anything else sitting here
RJT>> interacting with _software_ instead. 

JH> Oh, yeah. That was one of the original selling pitches for
JH> pnp and Windows for the masses - - "Our users" will only
JH> have to interact with the software, so they don't have to
JH> worry with the hardware, and those hateful jumpers and all,
JH> and "We're only trying to give our users what they want."
JH> (Excuse me while I barf). 

I think COMPAQ was into PNP early on, possibly before
Microsoft? I have a version of PNP from COMPAQ installed into
W31 here (as I received it not my doing). 

The concept is not a foolish one, but Microsoft cannot control
third party hardware (yet). As your other message references,
hardware should ID itself when queried and not make this such a
mess. If all manuf standardized this and allowed us to query
the hardware PNP would work 99% of the time unless the hardware
was a horrible mismatch of parts. It seems to be possible to go
in and manually correct (tweak) the data so it's not all _that_
horrible yet. 

Again, referring to your other message, few CPUs I have checked
are as advertised and many reply to software with false data.
My brother's 800mhz machine tests at 788mhz? or some such and I
find this is quite common. 

If we were allowed to replace our pictures on our driver's
license and choose any name we want to (as women are prone to
do) then driver's licenses as ID would be useless. 

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