JT> So far, he has verified that David Nugent was one of the
JT> persons consulted and OKed the excommunication, this is
JT> no real suprise, but useful for those who are keeping tabs.

PE> WHAT???  David Nugent OK'd the excommunication?  How do you know
PE> that? That's certainly not the gist of what David was saying previously.

JT> Look at the above DM quote.  "As agreed by the ZC,
JT> Paul Edwards was validly suspended for 6 weeks"

RS> Trouble is we have also seen a quote from somewhere where Nugent ALSO
RS> appeared to be saying that he thought that that stank to high heaven.

JT> Only quoting what DM had in his message to me.  I'll keep that
JT> noted though. If DN did indeed NOT agree with the excommunication,
JT> then he may have something to say about it in front of DM who
JT> will be desperately trying to make himself look credible.

JT> Do you remember which echo it appeared in?

Nope, but it must have been either LOCUSER, LOCSYSOP or AVT.
I'll check my netmails and email, there has been some of that.

JT> If it's in zone3sysop or R54sysop, I can go back to have a look.

Nar, definitely not either of those, havent been reading those lately.

RS> Corse he is rather notorious for some FUCKING bizarre interpretations
RS> of the rules, so he may have essentially been saying that he thought
RS> that that stank to high heaven, but was within the power of an NC to do.

JT> I think he's gone too far now to start
JT> moderating. If he starts now it will look bad.

I didnt mean that. His comment about thinking that an excommunication
of Paul because of his behaviour in Z3_Sysop, stank, was just a 'I hope
it never comes to that when you can just twitlist etc' type comment.

JT> He did mention that he expects it to run out of its own steam at some
JT> time.  I predict it will die a natural death, which is what DN wants.
JT> When?  I dunno.  Unless of course someone opens another can of worms.

Sure, everything always dies eventually.

JT> as far as I am currently aware, ZC stands for Zone Co-ordinator,
JT> and the said ZC would mean OUR ZC, who is currently David Nugent.

RS> Sure, that bit seems pretty clear. Corse I wouldnt put
RS> it past More to deliberately tell flagrant lies either.

JT> They are not lies, really.

I meant that he had prior approval from Nugent to 'suspend' Paul.

JT> They all comply with P4.

I'm not convinced that do. No evidence that the excessively
annoying actually applies to message CONTENT when you can
just twitlist or not read message you dont like.

JT> As matter of fact, I've read about Hitler in my encyclopedia,
JT> (just dusted them off) and hey!  How about that?! Hitler
JT> could in fact have complied with P4 if he wanted to as well.

Hitler didnt bother too much about the legalitys. He just
rocked up and shot Rhome and his bum buddys stone dead and just
waffled on about how it was the only viable course of action.

JT> So we need a new policy then eh?  Ok first we need
JT> an IC to oversee the situation, but wait- there is
JT> no IC?  Gee that's too bad, can't change it then.

It never got changed even when there WAS an IC anyway.
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