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to: Randall Parker
from: Bill Lucy
date: 2000-05-18 22:30:20
subject: Re: Freedom and totalitarianism

From: Bill Lucy 

In article ,
rgparker{at}west.net says...
MPG.138cf934afffe2b9898d0{at}news.barkto.com>,
> blucy{at}mediaone.net says...
> > > No it isn't. Books and mags and newspapers are key to a healthy civil
> > > society.
> > So, prior to the 17th century society wasn't civil?
>
> Well then, I guess we don't need books. Lets return once again to that
> idyllic life.

"You and I both know that a book is just information. Often it's false
information. We both believe we are capable of determining whether there is
truth or falsehood in a particular book, right?"

I don't think so. I really do think that sometimes we can't tell that we're
getting "the real story". That's the tools issue.

Does that make us free? I suppose. But I don't "KNOW".


> > I read an excerpt. Have you seen how the Cuban government are releasing
some of
> > their dissidents from jail? And none complained of ill treatment while
there?
>
> Maybe they don't release the ones they feel a need to torture.

These were considered the top dissidents for democratic movement. If they
had been subject to torture, it wasn't evident.

> Huh? What are you talking about? Gun control? Crime drops in areas that
> adopt laws that make it easy to get concealed carry permits.

I don't care that much about gun control. I really believe that an
individual should be able to own a firearm.

What I was referring to was safety in the street, especially in urban
areas. I have to be careful if I go out my front door after dark.

Is that free? I don't think so.

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