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to: Carol Shenkenberger
from: Vladimir Donskoy
date: 2006-04-28 11:28:40
subject: Re: none

Hi Carol!

Thursday April 27 2006, Carol Shenkenberger wrote to Vladimir Donskoy:

 MV>> The ones in favour of splitting the region is a small group.

 VD>> OK, what is size of "small group"? In practice of
Zone2 - smallest reg
 VD>> have 1 sysop. You want splitting R50 to 2000 regions? :-)

 VD>> More rights - split to groups near 100 sysops, and summary other regio
 VD>> to analogue count (for example - nord Europe, central Europe and so on

 CS> OUCH!  Can you imagine the pain that would cause in Europe Z2?  Have you
 CS> really thought that through?

 CS> Lets go back to basic nodelist format.  There's a hard limit to the number
 CS> of 2 digit assignments for RC's.  01-09 are not used (reserved for
 CS> special needs) and i think we top out generally with 10 per zone though
 CS> Z2 has more than 10 assigned (perhaps reuse of other zones sets not
 CS> otherwise needed).

I was ask you last year and have no your answer for now - what document
list (have) this? Is not exist FTS discribe it! So - all of this is you
private opinion, not true (not law). Every zone may have all regional
slots, not only 10!

 CS> I've already had to disabuse a few folks that this means Z6 is no longer
 CS> reserved for Fidonet use. To use it for R50 when I am here, means it will
 CS> be a scheduled reasonable shift not a splinter of all R50.  To use it
 CS> after I am gone, will be up to the ZCC.  The 'vote/referendum' showed me
 CS> pretty clear that R50 doesnt want to change as a group, just a small
 CS> portion of it and not suffienct support in R50 alone to cause the people
 CS> there the problems that *will* ensue.

It is a pity, but as I and wrote it here - ignorance of internal our
circumstances has caused acceptance of the incorrect (unreasoned) decision.
I already specified here percent of sysops which at us in general
participate in a public life (vote), and according to it this interrogation
was quite representative.

Precisely also your misunderstanding of summation of voices of different
variants - actually this all for one and too speaks also, and a principle
of the internal organization of a zone at us already were is developed and
told that "the minority will obey to the majority" (democracy).

Therefore the result of a referendum was you (ZCC) absolutely incorrectly
is interpreted - actually our region has voted for creation of the zone. If
to you not enough my personal opinion (as I am not the official) that the
fact of a direction to IC results of interrogation from our RC already
should tell about an official position of region (but I think that he read
this echo and can write about this).


Regards, Vladimir Donskoy

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