From: "Geo." 

You think the ribbon restriction that says direct office competitors can't
use it is not anticompetitive, sort of like if Apple said everyone but MS
can use the trashcan, didn't MS sue over that look and feel thing claiming
it was anticompetitive? Funny how the tables turn and suddenly MS sees it
in a different light, no?

I like words with my icons since it's replacing File/Edit/View which is a
word based menu.

mrd.

Geo.

"Rich"  wrote in message news:4594792b$1{at}w3.nls.net...
   Are you saying that all Office 2007 competitors disappeared by some
magical means?  I still see people talking about them.  Is this some other
reality to which you refer?

   As your contrived screen shot, in your attempts to be deceptive you
already found the way to grow the toolbar size so you could use the same
mechanism to shrink it.  It's the same as present in earlier versions of
IE.

   I think you are lying to yourself with your own car analogy.

Rich

  "Geo."  wrote in message
news:459364a1{at}w3.nls.net...
  "Rich"  wrote in message news:45934db9{at}w3.nls.net...
  >>   How does IE changing the menus prevent competition?

  The ribbon thing prevents competition. The IE thing is just annoying.

  >>   Why do you claim it doesn't make things better?  It saves space
  >> allowing for more

  No it doesn't. It sucks up space and cramps the tabs so you can't even
read
  the titles. See attached, THAT is why I want to turn it off, I want that
  space back for tabs. Also in the attached image, compare the size of
  File/Edit/View to the Home/Feeds/Print menu and tell me which uses more
  space.

  >>   Are you really so change adverse?  You keep using cars as an example
so
  >> let's use them.  What do you do with the tens or hundreds of things
that
  >> differ from model to model and year to year such as the location and
use
  >> of controls for headlights, windshield wipers, gas cap, trunk, radio,
  >> heating, air conditioning, CD players, glove box, cup holders, seats,
  >> windows, locks, etc.  You get the idea.  If you can deal with any of
this
  >> I am shocked that you have so much difficulty with the small change in
  >> the menus.<<

  But that's the point, I'm not change adverse, I don't care if they move
the
  CD player, I do care if they move the drivers seat to the right side
  though.. There are some things that should not change in order to provide
  consistency so users don't have to fumble around trying to learn how to
use
  a computer all over again or learning how to drive all over again.
  File/Edit/View is one such thing, it is definitely not some "small
change",
  it's the gas, brake, and steering wheel.

  Geo.

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