From: "Rich" 

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   Are you saying that all Office 2007 competitors disappeared by some =
magical means?  I still see people talking about them.  Is this some =
other reality to which you refer?

   As your contrived screen shot, in your attempts to be deceptive you =
already found the way to grow the toolbar size so you could use the same =
mechanism to shrink it.  It's the same as present in earlier versions of =
IE.

   I think you are lying to yourself with your own car analogy.

Rich

  "Geo."  wrote in message
news:459364a1{at}w3.nls.net...
  "Rich"  wrote in message news:45934db9{at}w3.nls.net...
  >>   How does IE changing the menus prevent competition?

  The ribbon thing prevents competition. The IE thing is just annoying.

  >>   Why do you claim it doesn't make things better?  It saves space=20
  >> allowing for more

  No it doesn't. It sucks up space and cramps the tabs so you can't even =
read=20
  the titles. See attached, THAT is why I want to turn it off, I want =
that=20
  space back for tabs. Also in the attached image, compare the size of=20
  File/Edit/View to the Home/Feeds/Print menu and tell me which uses =
more=20
  space.

  >>   Are you really so change adverse?  You keep using cars as an =
example so=20
  >> let's use them.  What do you do with the tens or hundreds of things =
that=20
  >> differ from model to model and year to year such as the location =
and use=20
  >> of controls for headlights, windshield wipers, gas cap, trunk, =
radio,=20
  >> heating, air conditioning, CD players, glove box, cup holders, =
seats,=20
  >> windows, locks, etc.  You get the idea.  If you can deal with any =
of this=20
  >> I am shocked that you have so much difficulty with the small change =
in=20
  >> the menus.<<

  But that's the point, I'm not change adverse, I don't care if they =
move the=20
  CD player, I do care if they move the drivers seat to the right side=20
  though.. There are some things that should not change in order to =
provide=20
  consistency so users don't have to fumble around trying to learn how =
to use=20
  a computer all over again or learning how to drive all over again.=20
  File/Edit/View is one such thing, it is definitely not some "small =
change",=20
  it's the gas, brake, and steering wheel.

  Geo.=20

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   Are you
saying that all =
Office 2007=20
competitors disappeared by some magical means?  I still see people
= talking=20
about them.  Is this some other reality to which you =
refer?
 
   As your
contrived screen =
shot, in your=20
attempts to be deceptive you already found the way to grow the toolbar = size so=20
you could use the same mechanism to shrink it.  It's the same as =
present in=20
earlier versions of IE.
 
   I think
you are lying to =
yourself with=20
your own car analogy.
 
Rich
 

  "Geo." <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
wrote=20
  in message news:459364a1{at}w3.nls.net..."R=
ich"=20
  <{at}> wrote in message news:45934db9{at}w3.nls.net...>=
>  =20
  How does IE changing the menus prevent competition?The ribbon =
thing=20
  prevents competition. The IE thing is just=20
  annoying.>>   Why do
you claim it doesn't make =
things=20
  better?  It saves space >> allowing for
moreNo =
it=20
  doesn't. It sucks up space and cramps the tabs so you can't even read =
the=20
  titles. See attached, THAT is why I want to turn it off, I want that =
space=20
  back for tabs. Also in the attached image, compare the size of=20
  File/Edit/View to the Home/Feeds/Print menu and tell me which uses =
more=20
  space.>>  
Are you really so change =
adverse? =20
  You keep using cars as an example so >> let's use =
them.  What=20
  do you do with the tens or hundreds of things that
>> differ =
from=20
  model to model and year to year such as the location and use =
>> of=20
  controls for headlights, windshield wipers, gas cap, trunk, radio,=20
  >> heating, air conditioning, CD players, glove box, cup =
holders,=20
  seats, >> windows, locks, etc.  You get
the idea.  =
If you=20
  can deal with any of this >> I am shocked that
you have so =
much=20
  difficulty with the small change in >> the =
menus.<<But=20
  that's the point, I'm not change adverse, I don't care if they move =
the CD=20
  player, I do care if they move the drivers seat to the right side =
though..=20
  There are some things that should not change in order to provide=20
  consistency so users don't have to fumble around trying to learn =
how to=20
  use a computer all over again or learning how to drive all over =
again.=20
  File/Edit/View is one such thing, it is definitely not some "small =

  change", it's the gas, brake, and steering
wheel.Geo.=20


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