Saturday September 03 2016 16:02, you wrote to me:

 AI>> Under your plan we will have lost our sysop echo.

 MV> According to Janis, echomail is not part of Fidonet.

Technically that is true isn't it?

When I applied for fidonet I sent a netmail to the NC of net 153 and a few days
leter he replied with the details of my nodelisting. I was a nodelisted sysop.
Not a single echomail had been sent, recieved or even thought of beyond the
basic idea.

 MV> Following that reasoning, "we" can not "lose" "our" sysop echo, as
 MV> "we" never "had" it in the first place.

Of course we can and it looks like that is what is happening. That situation
does not make me happy. Fidonet as a whole is important to me whether we are
communicating via echomail or netmail.

 MV> It is no man's land...

So it seems. Regardless of that I will stand up for what is important to me.
Being able to communicate with other sysops from all zones is important to me.
I prefer myself that the two sysop echoes remain restricted to ourselves but if
the group decided it should be readable by all then I am OK with that too.

I think it should also be writable by all in a case like that but I think we
should decide that as a group.

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