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to: John Beckett
from: Gary Britt
date: 2006-12-28 00:30:00
subject: Re: File/Edit/View

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From: Gary Britt 

What is the advantage of the XP luna start menu over classic start menu?  I was
dumbfounded by that comment.  The XP luna start menus and access to things like
control panel, network stuff, etc are ridiculously inscrutable and practically
useless for anything beyond setting your desktop wallpaper.
  The only thing I find nice in the Luna interface is the sort of 3d title
bar area compared to the Win2K style gradients.  However, the garish look of
the Luna interface overall and the nice way it hides and obfuscates the
"real"
stuff any person not a moron needs more than cancels out the sort of 3d Title
Bars.

At least that's my opinion.  I could be wrong.

Gary

John Beckett wrote:
> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
> news::
>> Microsoft has decided to replace the menu/toolbar with the
>> ribbon design and forcefeed us the ribbon paradigm.
>
> While I totally agree that a lot of Microsoft's stuff in recent years has
> been totally irritating, we need some reality checks here.
>
> I know several people who instinctively change the XP Start menu to
> "classic" (or whatever it's called - the result is that the XP desktop
> looks more like Windows 2000). Frankly, the majority of these people are
> idiots. If they put a tiny amount of effort into figuring out what the XP
> Start menu does they would realise that the new stuff has many benefits.
> At least they would be making an informed decision if they wanted to
> switch it to classic.
>
> I remember the months of whining that went on when File Manager was
> replaced with Explorer. OMG - you have to have two instances of Explorer
> open to do some of the stuff you could do in File Manager! I bet the chief
> whiners would be totally lost if they were now confronted with File
> Manager - OMG I can't do a Ctrl+C (or Ctrl+X) followed by a Ctrl+V
> somewhere else!
>
> In fact, I remember the whining that went on when Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V etc were
> chosen as the new shortcuts for copy/paste. Again, Microsoft has been
> proven to be correct. They recognised that Ctrl+C etc were better than
> Ctrl+Ins etc, and tore up the old rule book.
>
> So, whereas I dread confronting the "ribbon" when I finally upgrade, I
> know that it should get a fair trial before being discarded.
>
> We won't know for another six months of so whether the change in IE menus
> is good or bad, or whether the ribbon in Office is clever or stupid.
>
> John
>

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