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to: Bob Klahn
from: Jeff Binkley
date: 2007-06-16 23:41:00
subject: CARTER VS. BUSH

BK>BK>> JB> The debt went up every single year under The Clinton:

BK>BK>> I said the deficit and the debt load decreased under Clinton. I

BK> JB> That is doublespeak for cooking to books and moving debt
BK> JB> further out, not retiring it.

BK> When the deficit hits zero the debt starts retiring. The latest
BK> budget figures I got from the Bush administration say it went
BK> into surplus during Clinton's last few years.

Yet the debt went up.  You can't explain it.  Also a deficit hitting 
zero or going positive is current account balance cashflow and doesn't 
mean debt is being retired.  You can have cash in your pocket and chose 
not to pay off debt.  


BK>BK>> find govt accounting interesting, in that Bush's budget figures
BK>BK>> show the deficit wiped out under Clinton, yet the debt
BK>BK>> increasing.

BK> JB> Those weren't Bush's budget figures but don't let that stop

BK> It was from Bush's 2007 budget, in the budget history files.

They were the same under the Clinton.  Nobody played with the numbers.  
You are just in denial, ignorant or both.  I am going with both.


BK> JB> a good rant. Those figures were their during The CLinton's
BK> JB> time in office.  You just buried your head in the sand.

BK> They were there, but burying your head in the sand today won't
BK> help. Bush has had 6 years to correct them if they are wrong. If
BK> Bush is still publishing them then they can be accepted as
BK> correct.

BK> Or you could say Bush's budget people are incompetent, which I
BK> could accept also.

Right, so now Bush changed the debt numbers.  You'll say anything, no 
matter how stupid.  Amazing.


BK>BK>> JB> http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/histdebt/histd
BK>BK>> JB> ebt_histo4.h tm

BK>BK>> JB> 09/30/2006  8,506,973,899,215.23
BK>BK>> ...
BK>BK>> JB> 09/30/1991  3,665,303,351,697.03

BK>BK>> JB> Under The Clinton the debt went up each year and by a total
BK>BK>> JB> of

BK>BK>> JB> Don't let this stop your rant.

BK>BK>> My statement was correct, and on target. You shifted the
BK>BK>> discussion. The debt went up under every president as far back

BK> JB> I changed nothing.  My statements have been consistent on
BK> JB> this topic. You specifically said above " BK>> The debt
BK> JB> went up during his early years, until it was turned around.
BK> JB> That is normal for reversing an economic trend."   That is
BK> JB> a lie and contradicts what you are now saying.

BK> No, it's from the Bush administration budget history files. How
BK> the accounting is done is not my interest or problem. When Bush
BK> changes the records let me know.

You are out to lunch.


Jeff

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