From: "Rich" 

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   The new menu doesn't use extra space.  Don't you think you should =
look before you post nonsense and make yourself look like an idiot.

Rich

  "Geo."  wrote in message =
news:4593610c$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  Ok so you choose the classic menu over the new menu, I found where you =
turn=20
  on the classic menu, where do you turn off the new menu so you aren't=20
  wasting all that space?

  Geo.

  "Rich"  wrote in message news:4593066b{at}w3.nls.net...
     Even if not visible by default, the classic menus are present if =
you try=20
  to use them.  Otherwise, you are just arguing that you are more =
comfortable=20
  with them.  For folks like you there is the option to display them by=20
  default which is what you have chosen to do.  All you appear to be =
doing is=20
  whining that your personal preferences are not the defaults for =
everyone.=20
  You have attempted to make this argument in the past.

  Rich

    "Geo."  wrote in message =
news:4592e651$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    You didn't answer the question, if we reverse the gas and brake =
pedals, is
    the care usable? By your standards it should still be considered =
usable
    because the controls are still there although they are not where you =

  expect
    them.

    For me, I've been using windows for years and it's like second =
nature. If
    you start moving the controls I have to learn to drive all over =
again.

    Geo.

    "Rich"  wrote in message news:4591ee36$1{at}w3.nls.net...
       I made no stupid claims relating to cars.  You did make a stupid =
claim
    relating to the classic menu.  Support your claim or retract it.

    Rich

      "Geo."  wrote in message =
news:4591e1bc$3{at}w3.nls.net...
      If I switch the position of the gas and brake pedals in your car, =
is the
    car
      usable? You answer that then I'll answer your question.

      Geo.

      "Rich"  wrote in message news:4591dfa2{at}w3.nls.net...
         You wrote "turning off the menu bar in IE7 ... I had to turn it =
back=20
  on
      to make it useable".  I asked "what is present on the classic =
menus that
    is
      not present on the new toolbar menus that is necessary for IE to =
be
    usable?"
      You failed to answer in your reply and I asked again.  And again =
you=20
  fail
    to
      answer.  If you lied when you claimed it was necessary to you to =
make it
      usable say so otherwise please identify what was missing that made =
it
      unusable.

      Rich

        "Geo."  wrote in message=20
  news:4591cdd0$1{at}w3.nls.net...
        "Rich"  wrote in message news:458f0097{at}w3.nls.net...
        >>   Regarding IE7, what is present on the classic menus that is =
not
      present
        >> on the new toolbar menus that is necessary for IE to be =
usable?<<

        I'm typing in windows mail, above I see
        file/edit/view/insert/format/tools/message/help. THAT is what is =

  missing
      in
        IE7. What, didn't the IE7 team synchronize the interface design =
with=20
  the
        rest of the Windows teams? I open my computer, I see
        file/edit/view/tools/help, looks familiar, did the IE7 team not =
notice
      this?

        According to you everyone but the IE7 team fucked up huh?

        Geo.

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   The new
menu doesn't use =
extra=20
space.  Don't you think you should look before you post nonsense =
and make=20
yourself look like an idiot.
 
Rich
 

  "Geo." <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
wrote=20
  in message news:4593610c$1{at}w3.nls.net...Ok so=20
  you choose the classic menu over the new menu, I found where you turn =
on=20
  the classic menu, where do you turn off the new menu so you aren't =
wasting=20
  all that
space?Geo."Rich"
<{at}> wrote in message =
news:4593066b{at}w3.nls.net...&nbs=
p; =20
  Even if not visible by default, the classic menus are present if you =
try=20
  to use them.  Otherwise, you are just arguing that you are =
more=20
  comfortable with them.  For folks like you there is the =
option to=20
  display them by default which is what you have chosen to do.  =
All you=20
  appear to be doing is whining that your personal preferences are =
not the=20
  defaults for everyone. You have attempted to make this argument in =
the=20
  past.Rich 
"Geo." <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
wrote in =
message news:4592e651$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
 =20
  You didn't answer the question, if we reverse the gas and brake =
pedals,=20
  is  the care usable? By your standards it should still be =
considered=20
  usable  because the controls are still there although they =
are not=20
  where you expect 
them.  For me, I've been =
using=20
  windows for years and it's like second nature. If  you start =
moving=20
  the controls I have to learn to drive all over
again. =20
  Geo.  "Rich" <{at}>
wrote in message news:4591ee36$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
    =20
  I made no stupid claims relating to cars.  You did make a stupid=20
  claim  relating to the classic menu.  Support
your claim =
or=20
  retract it. 
Rich    "Geo."
<georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
wrote in =
message news:4591e1bc$3{at}w3.nls.net...=
   =20
  If I switch the position of the gas and brake pedals in your car, is=20
  the  car   
usable? You answer that then =
I'll=20
  answer your question.    =
Geo.   =20
  "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:4591dfa2{at}w3.nls.net...&nbs=
p;     =20
  You wrote "turning off the menu bar in IE7 ... I had to turn it back=20
  on    to make it
useable".  I asked "what =
is=20
  present on the classic menus that 
is    =
not=20
  present on the new toolbar menus that is necessary for IE to =
be =20
  usable?"    You failed to
answer in your reply and =
I asked=20
  again.  And again you fail 
to    =

  answer.  If you lied when you claimed it was necessary to you to =
make=20
  it    usable say so otherwise please
identify what =
was=20
  missing that made it    =
unusable.   =20
 
Rich     
"Geo." <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
wrote in =
message news:4591cdd0$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
     =20
  "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:458f0097{at}w3.nls.net...&nbs=
p;    =20
  >>   Regarding IE7, what is present on
the classic =
menus that=20
  is not   
present      =

  >> on the new toolbar menus that is necessary for IE to be=20
 
usable?<<     
I'm typing in =
windows=20
  mail, above I see     =20
  file/edit/view/insert/format/tools/message/help. THAT is what is=20
  missing   
in      =
IE7.=20
  What, didn't the IE7 team synchronize the interface design with=20
  the     
rest of the Windows teams? I =
open my=20
  computer, I see      =
file/edit/view/tools/help,=20
  looks familiar, did the IE7 team not
notice   =20
 
this?     
According to you everyone =
but the=20
  IE7 team fucked up
huh?     =20
Geo.

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