Bob Klahn -> Alan Hess wrote:

 BK>  ...

 AH>> It does sound ridiculous.  I don't believe Mimi sold her
 AH>> soul.  She changed her opinion on many issues, as people
 AH>> are allowed to do, and people that used to attack her now
 AH>> defend her, whereas people that used to support her now
 AH>> attack her, and she attacks them.

 BK>  Except that you got the order wrong. I don't know about
 BK>  everybody, but I did not attack Mimi even once for holding
 BK>  differing opinions. If you like I'll email you my archives on
 BK>  this. She did not come in here with different opinions, she came
 BK>  in here with different allies. She joined in the attacks before
 BK>  anyone attacked her. She signed on to the worst of the attacks.
 BK>  Look at what she posts now. She attacks without provocation, and
 BK>  without reason.

 BK>  Notice also, she only talks to the right wingers. She will
 BK>  attack people she won't talk to. She will not respond to anyone
 BK>  who disagrees with her, no matter how reasoned or well behaved
 BK>  the disagreement.

 AH>> Partisan politics can be
 AH>> very nasty, if the people involved in the politics
 AH>> themselves and the people who talk about the issues allow
 AH>> it to be.

 BK>  It only takes one to make it nasty. It takes all to keep it
 BK>  decent.

 AH>> Moderators of political echoes have and had consistently
 AH>> tried to get echo users to limit attacks to indirect ones

 BK>  Not true. Some moderators of political echos have tried to keep
 BK>  it indirect. Some, such as this echo, do not try at all. All the
 BK>  right wing domininated echos I have seen are like that.

 BK>  BTW, I got your msg in Crossfire. I signed on. I posted one
 BK>  message there, I believe. I looked at what was there and decided
 BK>  I see enough of that BS in this echo. I don't need another trash
 BK>  echo thank you.

 AH>> ("That's a stupid idea," which makes the idea the subject
 AH>> of the attack, vs. "You are a moron to suggest that," which
 AH>> makes the poster the subject.)  Unfortunately, success has
 AH>> been rare and fleeting in most cases, which prettty much
 AH>> mirrors actual politics.  *adh*

 BK>  Success has been 100%, that I have seen, in echos where the
 BK>  moderator allows no flaming, and enforces it. Look at debate and
 BK>  Pol_incorrect. It is only in those echos where flames are
 BK>  allowed, even if they try to limit it, that flames take over.

 BK>  You have been in pretty much all the echos I have mentioned, you
 BK>  know it is so.

If you are happy in those protected echos  and unhappy in those that allow
people to say what they think about people, why the hell don't you stay in
those "Flame Free" echos?
Trust me if you were to leave the others you wouldn't be missed.


Your thin skinned whineing and moaning is getting VERY old.

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