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echo: 60s_70s_progrock
to: IDRIS SAHIN
from: KENNETH NEWMAN
date: 1997-06-09 16:27:00
subject: RE: METAL

 On 05-17-97 IDRIS SAHIN wrote to KENNETH NEWMAN... 
 
 IS>  KN> I recently listened to the Naked City album by Zorn with 
 IS>  KN> Bill Friesell on guitar and Fred Frith on bass. Frith can 
 
 IS> i was just about to get this from someone via Internet, but 
 IS> he had sold it to somebody else. in the futur, i'll find 
 IS> it. 
 
        Well, you'll want to get it eventually, but also you 
        probably won't be miserable that you have to wait. It's 
        not something you need immediately. But when it happens 
        it happens. I'm still not sure if I like it. It's very 
        very clever, and that sometimes turns me off. 
 
 IS> when he listed me the members, i was thinking bill frisell 
 IS> would be bass guitarist , and fred frith would be guitarist. 
 
        that would make more sense, imo 
 
 IS>  i think i thought it was bil laswell. btw Bill Frisell has 
 IS>  come to turkey, and i have not gone seeing him, cause i'm 
 IS>  not much interested in jazz (i had also not gone seeing RUINS, 
 IS>  which i regret now) 
 
        I find some Frisell I like fine but other stuff bores me, 
        though I know people who are big fans of his. 
 
 IS>  KN> That sounds really interesting. Soh Band, huh? 
 
 IS> i think their guitarist masuda played with john zorn, should be 
 IS> a naked city member. very free music, some people said, they 
 IS> sound like II Inferno's first album which i'll also check. 
 
        I recently saw a live video a friend had of Masada 
        recorded 11 Dec 1993 with Zorn on horn. It was pretty 
        hot. Lots of good drumming. 
 
 IS> people say boud deun has stravinskian overtones, which i cant hear. 
 
        People say that about lots of bands, Stravinsky this and 
        Bartok that. All it means is that in general people know 
        very little about Stravinsky and Bartok. 
 
 IS> i listened the first hoyry kone album, its phenomenal music, on the 
 IS> king crimson magma axis. 
 
        Yet another reason I am going to have to check this band 
        out. THey are at the top of the list along with the 
        Hungarian band After Crying. Speaking of Hungarian bands 
        you might like Onehalf/Viperflat, which sound sort of 
        like 801 Live mixed with Material, very strong beat, very 
        loud and relentless, nice crunch to the guitars, a little 
        bit of Les Claypool sound on the bass. Not bad. 
 
 IS> i had 4 x-legged sally albums, a belgian band playing 
 IS> funky fusion kind of Zappa, they are cool. 
 
        I'll add this to the list to check out, since it sounds 
        like it's right up my alley. 
 
 IS> mike patton seems to have a new solo album have you listened it? 
 
        Not yet. I haven't even seen it anywhere. Of course, 
        after that last Faith No More album I'm not sure I want 
        to. 
 
 IS> this echo gets slower and slower. you can email me to 
 IS> erdener@hotmail.com 
 IS> to get faster replies, 
 
        I'll send to both addresses. 
 
                                Cheers, 
                                Kenneth 
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